ARC Rifle WIP/ DC-15s Pistol WIP

[Corsair]

ARC Rifle



DC-15s

[Heero]

Ok Corsair and......???

[^EvilCake]

wait a second didn't you already do this??

http://pcgamemods.com/mod/18306.html

[FrenchFry]

The pistol looks pretty good, what's the poly count on both of them? The pistol looks a bit highpoly and the texture on the rifle needs some work. Other than that they look good. The handle on the ARC Rifle looks like it needs to be a bit thicker too.

[Corsair]

ARC Rifle
Polys:3295
Verts:1907

DC-17
Polys:1538
Verts:1001

Compared to the old ones.... which are.
Old Rifle (http://pcgamemods.com/screenshot/80663.html#focus)
Polys:1954
Verts:1289

Old Pistol (http://pcgamemods.com/screenshot/80665.html)
Polys:996
Verts:1050



Ok Corsair and......???

I would think an ARC/Clone freak like yourself would be ecstatic.



wait a second didn't you already do this??

http://pcgamemods.com/mod/18306.html


Yeah.
This is to my old guns what Neo Marz's V2 clones are to the ones in MB.

[FrenchFry]

The rifle is pretty damn high, but ok I guess. the only suggestion I could give is make the handle on the rifle thicker.

[Furry_rodian]

I love the models but I wish the ARCs still had the old pistols while the clones had the new ones.

[Xyle]

Sweet models those are cool. I like them. :D

[Kurama42]

What is the ARC rifle going to replace..? Clone rifle?

[Furry_rodian]

What is the ARC rifle going to replace..? Clone rifle?

>_> Really Kur, I thought you would know better then to ask such a foolish question, thats something I would expect from Darc :p, not you.

[Þahricida]

The rifle is pretty damn high, but ok I guess.

Not really. Highest rate I'd reccomend for JKA would be around 2000 for first LOD and even thats still really high.
Without LOD's I wouldn't use a weapon like that.
I'd definitively use the model for some newer engine though since it does look good. Not ragged like the first attempt. :p

Yet there are some UV mapping issues I can see in some spots.


This is to my old guns what Neo Marz's V2 clones are to the ones in MB.

Both versions have their features and disadvantages.
Try to improve yourself so the comparision equals NeoMarz' Clones V2 vs. Haps Clones, for example.

[Infernox]

I like em, altho I think for the hell of it you should make a shoulder strap for the gun, that would look pimp.

[Þahricida]

I was browsing through my references and found this:



Hope you'll use it ;)

[Zaswed]

I was browsing through my references and found this:



Hope you'll use it ;)
Just how would anyone's finger fit in there without accidentally pluling the trigger? Especially when they have thick armor gloves like arcs and clones do? Heh.

[Beast]

Uhhh... I think you need L.O.D.s.... 3000 is really REALLY high. Even hatrus's weapons top only 2500. And JUST using normal mapping for UV's makes the other dimension blurred and distorted so you can't put ANYTHING on it. Take out the details you don't need. And forget fine details such as curving on the grip, and use a lesser amount of sides on cylinders 10 or 8. And that's hapslash's scope >.>

[DaveGrohl]

Just how would anyone's finger fit in there without accidentally pluling the trigger? Especially when they have thick armor gloves like arcs and clones do? Heh.

they're trained for it :p

[Corsair]

Uhhh... I think you need L.O.D.s.... 3000 is really REALLY high. Even hatrus's weapons top only 2500. And JUST using normal mapping for UV's makes the other dimension blurred and distorted so you can't put ANYTHING on it. Take out the details you don't need. And forget fine details such as curving on the grip, and use a lesser amount of sides on cylinders 10 or 8. And that's hapslash's scope >.>

No, the model is all mine. I'm actually quite offended that you would think I would steal someone elses work.

And oh my god Pah, you have no idea how many times I went googling for a diagram of this rifle. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

[Þahricida]

no problem but you know I expect a perfect model now :D

[Big]

wait a second didn't you already do this??

http://pcgamemods.com/mod/18306.html

I put the .pk3 in my MBII folder but it didn't work. I just see regular clone rifles.

EDIT: Nevermind, I got it to work. Had to add "zzz" to the beginning of it.

[Beast]

I meant the texture >.> but uhh... sorry, you couldve just done it the exact same way. :x

[Vriff]

Nice model, but standart weapons are better for me. I think that in fpp view that rifle is too big and pistol is too small :|

[Corsair]

Here it is..

[Darc]

Link....

[The Chosen One]

^What he said.

[Infernox]

Much better, great job.

[The Chosen One]

Just a question. Where is that rifle and pistol used? Like what game or source or whatever.

[Þahricida]

The Pistol appears in "Star Wars: Republic Commando" and the rifle had appearances in the Dark Horse "Republic" comics & ARC action figures.

[/url] (http://starwars.wikia.com/images/thumb/a/a2/0019.jpg/180px-0019.jpg) [url=http://www.rebelscum.com/clonewars/CWvaluearc-clone.jpg]

click the pics.

[GenTronSeven]

the team could almost remove the ARC pistols from that slot and just make them reskinned westars, then new weapons could be added.

[Jakkarus]

Any updates on the pistol?

[The Chosen One]

So when and/or if the team implements the rifle 2 option for ARC's that would be the model for it?

[Furry_rodian]

Uhh oh, seeing how we have ARC cannons now, we need to bring back the clone rifle ARC! :D

[White De'Vile]

the team could almost remove the ARC pistols from that slot and just make them reskinned westars, then new weapons could be added.

That would be a good idea, but changin blaster's fire color and model requires a different weapon slot propably.
Plus there may be some other obstacles.

But if such an idea would be possible, then giving the arc the clone rifle also would bring some versitality to the class, and team woud have a new weapon slot...it could be used for mando's new gadget or ARC's sniper rifle ? (like a modified clone rifle) or just DC-17 for ARCs and no clone rifle.

[Kurama42]

Looking good, Keep up the good work Cors.

[Infernox]

Or, similar to how a BD has a BD rifle and a stormtrooper has an e-11.....

Give arcs up to rifle 2, then use this model( on the dc-15 slot, just replaces it on this particular model)

That would pwn.

[-HolyAngel-]

I liked the first replacement mod, but the rifle's but would push through the arm of the clone model. DId you fix that?

[Anonymus]

yes look nice but i prefer a normal mb skin.:) but look nice

[The Chosen One]

Any link for this?

[Back2Murder]

Looks realy nice. i would download it if i didnt love the normal clone rifle.

[The Chosen One]

Is there any link for this already? :|

[Corsair]

No, its got some issues with the LODs using the wrong texture per part, so I'm fixing it.

Just stare a the still screenshots, and dream about how nicely it will fit into your hands as you blast away those meddling younglings on Jeditemple.

[Marauder_44]

corsair, i love you, i have long awaited an ARC rifle for MB, and now, i might get one ^^
and, you cant really give the ARC rifle the same points for the clone rofle, since they dont fire the same way. the ARC rifle is more like a bowcaster ;)

[Kurama42]

Considering how clones hold thier rifle differently now, wont that look kind of bad? :|

[SoM3]

-Pretty-Damn-Awesome-Dude

[Numba 1 Stunna]

Ressurection!

Will this ever be truely finished?

[Back2Murder]

*hopes so*

[AlphaFA]

Westar M5 should be in MB =/
I dont think the DC-15s should be though.

[Furry_rodian]

I bet he deleted it.

[Corsair]

No, I haven't.

[Þahricida]

great reply ...

I want that model!
finish it already!

[Andrew Past]

great reply ...

I want that model!
finish it already!
Indeed. I want these now. :p

[Back2Murder]

*starts waiting*

[Þahricida]

Corsair .. really why don't you just say you won't finish it / don't bother releasing it to the public?

[Numba 1 Stunna]

Because he is constantly editing the textures until he deems it worthy of being released.

[The Swashbuckler]

Correction: Because he's waiting until the MB community is worthy of its release.

[Col. Jack O'Neill]

^ Going into my sig.

[Infernox]

Correction: Because he's waiting until the MB community is worthy of its release.


i guess we'll have to live without then.

[Numba 1 Stunna]

True, very true.

[Numba 1 Stunna]

Ok Corsair showed me a little bit of progress on it. Here's something that will wet your appetites hopefully.

[Andrew Past]

... I want it.

Also, what about the pistol?

[Back2Murder]

Looks nice, i cant wait till it's released. ^^

[Numba 1 Stunna]

The pistol is really nice too, but sadly no screenies :(

[AlphaFA]

Looks great.... Thats all.

[Nynja]

/me wants :D

[Killer]

Ok Corsair showed me a little bit of progress on it. Here's something that will wet your appetites hopefully.



nice... but one problem:

where's the trigger? how am i supposed to shoot such an awsome gun if it is triggerless? :|

[Numba 1 Stunna]

Paying too much attention to detail.

[[KP] Tokakeke]

It's slightly out of view, hidden behind the drum.

This gun sure looks like a MG36 from BF2 doesn't it?

[Alex]

The MG36 is a lot longer, but it does have the same drum the '36 has.

[[KP] Tokakeke]

Yeah, it's sort of like the child of a MG36 anf a SCAR-L (or Voss from BF2142)

[Frost]

nice... but one problem:

where's the trigger? how am i supposed to shoot such an awsome gun if it is triggerless? :|

Take a look at all the other guns in the game and tell me how many actually have triggers, please.

[Furry_rodian]

Also, in SW most of the more advanced weapons do not have triggers but pressure sensative stubs.

[Beast]

skin looks too high contrast in a few areas... pretty good though, even though i hate that concept.

[Numba 1 Stunna]

Liiiiive!!!

[Dee]

any news?

[Numba 1 Stunna]

There are issues with the rifle's first person mode.

[Lervish]

There are issues with the rifle's first person mode.
The md3 conversion should be done in Milkshape, 3ds max exporters never made the weapons show up in first person view for me.

[Infernox]

There are issues with the rifle's first person mode.

Who cares what the gun looks like in first person as long as I have a crosshair and the bullets hit it?

[Back2Murder]

Who cares what the gun looks like in first person as long as I have a crosshair and the bullets hit it?

There are loads of people who do care about that Inf, I mean, you dont want lucasarts to release a new game with invisible guns. and if you ask them why they did that they say: Who cares? as long as it has a crosshair and the bullets hit the target.

[Corsair]

Who cares what the gun looks like in first person as long as I have a crosshair and the bullets hit it?

I care.

My biggest critic is myself, thats why.

[=Someone=]

The md3 conversion should be done in Milkshape, 3ds max exporters never made the weapons show up in first person view for me.
Yea, it takes some getting used to in max - but it works just fine if you make a .skin file for the .md3 model.

Anyways, if you need help with it - let me know, Corsair.

[Numba 1 Stunna]

Corsair, take help from anyone you can, the flickering business with third person needs to end.

[Delta «58» Cloud]

Woah dude, they look AWESOME, I'm gonna *try* sit here quietly until they are complete.

[Þahricida]

Who cares what the gun looks like in first person
I do.
Maybe you could describe what problems you're having?

[Numba 1 Stunna]

The gun has a problem flickering in an out of first person mode, it will be there then it's not and it happens over and over. Also the muzzle flash doesn't look right.

I'd give you the file, Pah but I don't know if Corsair is down with that.

[Þahricida]

I'd have liked to hear from Corsair himself .. has he abandoned the project ?

[Corsair]

Download (http://files.filefront.com/zzzMBIIWeaponszip/;7329824;/fileinfo.html)

[Þahricida]

ha, you see?

He didn't have any problems he couldn't have solved at all .. just gotta scratch his pride a bit and offer your help. :P

I'd like to know .. the concept for your DC-17... I've seen it in an Avatar here in which Quinlan-Vos is wielding it.
Got any real pics?
And Wow, ... 3700 tris suire is a lot of detail more than most playermodels. :eek:

[Yzmo]

I hope it doesnt lag too much... 3000+ is ALOT for a gun model

[Back2Murder]

Gimme gimme gimme, seriously awesome model =)

[Corsair]

ha, you see?

He didn't have any problems he couldn't have solved at all .. just gotta scratch his pride a bit and offer your help. :P

I'd like to know .. the concept for your DC-17... I've seen it in an Avatar here in which Quinlan-Vos is wielding it.
Got any real pics?
And Wow, ... 3700 tris suire is a lot of detail more than most playermodels. :eek:

Yeah, I decided to throw caution to the wind and go all out for this one.
And about finishing it, psh, I had to *ahem* re-aquire Milkshape.

[$nakeEye]

Yeah, I decided to throw caution to the wind and go all out for this one.
And about finishing it, psh, I had to *ahem* re-aquire Milkshape.

Note: Download

Also, I like it, but I liked those small guns for the ARC better lol, they look pimp. Like Max Payne..

Fux it, Im getting that game again :\

[Corsair]

I'd like to know .. the concept for your DC-17... I've seen it in an Avatar here in which Quinlan-Vos is wielding it.
Got any real pics?


Here (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.ultimatetoys.com.my/New/Star%2520Wars/KotoBly/KotoCommanderBly2.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.ultimatetoys.com.my/New/Star%2520Wars/KotoBly/KotoBly.htm&h=1363&w=1024&sz=80&hl=en&start=3&um=1&tbnid=gQ52ROihPZ4hVM:&tbnh=150&tbnw=113&prev=/images%3Fq%3DCommander%2BBly%26imgsz%3Dxxlarge%26s vnum%3D10%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26client %3Dfirefox-a%26channel%3Ds%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DG)

Closest thing I could find to a movie shot. The next best things are the Clone Wars DVDs.

[AlphaFA]

Here (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.ultimatetoys.com.my/New/Star%2520Wars/KotoBly/KotoCommanderBly2.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.ultimatetoys.com.my/New/Star%2520Wars/KotoBly/KotoBly.htm&h=1363&w=1024&sz=80&hl=en&start=3&um=1&tbnid=gQ52ROihPZ4hVM:&tbnh=150&tbnw=113&prev=/images%3Fq%3DCommander%2BBly%26imgsz%3Dxxlarge%26s vnum%3D10%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26client %3Dfirefox-a%26channel%3Ds%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DG)

Closest thing I could find to a movie shot. The next best things are the Clone Wars DVDs.

Great weapons, I like the Crosshair too.
If Mb2 ever gets the Westar M5, I'd like it to be this model.

[Bobnumerotres]

The first person model doesn't show (I never use third person, it's for people who like penises in their butts).
The pistol models have extremely poor animations for first person (no animation at all)
The models themselves are kind of..mleh looking.

I give it a zero out of five Coca-Colas.

[Infernox]

The first person model doesn't show (I never use third person, it's for people who like penises in their butts).
The pistol models have extremely poor animations for first person (no animation at all)
The models themselves are kind of..mleh looking.

I give it a zero out of five Coca-Colas.

I give you zero out of five jews.

[Numba 1 Stunna]

I love you Corsair. Even if I had the thing way before you released it I still love you.

[Andrew Past]

Here (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.ultimatetoys.com.my/New/Star%2520Wars/KotoBly/KotoCommanderBly2.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.ultimatetoys.com.my/New/Star%2520Wars/KotoBly/KotoBly.htm&h=1363&w=1024&sz=80&hl=en&start=3&um=1&tbnid=gQ52ROihPZ4hVM:&tbnh=150&tbnw=113&prev=/images%3Fq%3DCommander%2BBly%26imgsz%3Dxxlarge%26s vnum%3D10%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26client %3Dfirefox-a%26channel%3Ds%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DG)

Closest thing I could find to a movie shot. The next best things are the Clone Wars DVDs.
He said DC-17, not DC-15. XD

[[KP] Tokakeke]

That is a DC-17.

[Darc]

There is no first person view, only trueview :/

[AlphaFA]

There is no first person view, only trueview :/

Yes there is >>

[Darc]

Might only be for me since im running everything on the lowest possible graphics

[Numba 1 Stunna]

Yeah it works fine for me.

[Andrew Past]

Tokakeke']That is a DC-17.
No. This is a DC-17 pistol:


And a DC-17m carbine base, carbine blaster, sniper rifle, and anti-armor attachment:








The toy probably had a variation of the DC-15s pistol, favored by clone commandos, shown here:


Also, the DC-15 has quite a few variants. The DC-15a is the main clone blaster rifle that we're all familiar with, the DC-15x is a sniper rifle variant, and the DC-15s actually is two largely varying weapons, a carbine and a pistol.

Sources:
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/DC-17m http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/DC-17_hand_blaster
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/DC-15s
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/DC-15

[Corsair]

http://www.starstore.com/acatalog/Commander_Bly.jpg

These are ''real'' DC-17p's.

And no, it is clearly stated that it is not a DC-15S

[Andrew Past]

http://www.starstore.com/acatalog/Commander_Bly.jpg

These are ''real'' DC-17p's.

And no, it is clearly stated that it is not a DC-15S
Source?

[Þahricida]

Those are the guns the commanders wear, this is just the first picture you can really see them in.
The other one was designed for Republic Commando.

[Delta 57 Dash]

As far as I know, there IS no DC-17p... just the DC-17 hand repeating blaster, favored by Arc Troopers and Commanders.

The republic commandos use the DC-17m interchangeable combat weapon system, and carry the DC-15s pistol (not to be confused with the standard-issue DC-15S Carbine) as a backup.

Gotten directly from wookieepedia (wikipedia = inaccurate)

And SWBF is not a very reliable source, they broke canon on the Z-6 rotary blaster, DL-44, Q-2s5, and made up some very questionable items (incinerator, sonic pistol, radiation launcher).

[TroyMin]

I figured that I would try to help out and re-made the HUD icons for the ARC rifle, since (at least for me) they wouldn't show up. I put them in .png format (they were originally in .tga format), and decided to update them in Photoshop and make the icons look more like the current B19 ones. If you would like to use these, feel free, you can even put them into a future release if you want (although you could probably do a much better job if you wanted to -- I even used your original icons, I just edited them.)

Link for icon replacement of rifle WITHOUT blob attachment:
http://www.badongo.com/file/3532194

Link for icon replacement of rifle WITH blob attatchment: http://www.badongo.com/file/3532181
(Note: these icons replace the icons for the rifle with the blob attatchment, since I have the ARC rifle replacing that model while SoM3's DC-17m replaces the standard clone rifle.)

Hope you find these useful!

[SithPutty]

I'm not getting any views at all. I'm stuck with the same old crappy clone rifle.

[Numba 1 Stunna]

Don't download this one man, just wait and you'll be pleasantly suprised at what Corsair is coming up with. I promise.

[SithPutty]

Perhaps for a few..well...'green' slips, could you tell me?

[Numba 1 Stunna]

Nope. You'll have to be patient. Hell I've been patient for the damn patch to come out.

[Stryker.01]

Here (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.ultimatetoys.com.my/New/Star%2520Wars/KotoBly/KotoCommanderBly2.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.ultimatetoys.com.my/New/Star%2520Wars/KotoBly/KotoBly.htm&h=1363&w=1024&sz=80&hl=en&start=3&um=1&tbnid=gQ52ROihPZ4hVM:&tbnh=150&tbnw=113&prev=/images%3Fq%3DCommander%2BBly%26imgsz%3Dxxlarge%26s vnum%3D10%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26client %3Dfirefox-a%26channel%3Ds%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DG)

Closest thing I could find to a movie shot. The next best things are the Clone Wars DVDs.


I have a model like this, you want it?

[SithPutty]

God I hope in B20 that they put the ARC rifle in for the ARC troopers as a primary weapon.

[Stryker.01]

Yeah Ditch the PLX Launcher, and replace with Rifle. Maybe you could have a mini rocket launcher on the bottom? Or just get rid of the Nades.

Heh could someone make this work for JKA, replacing the Repeater with the First Person view working as well.

[AlphaFA]

Yeah Ditch the PLX Launcher, and replace with Rifle. Maybe you could have a mini rocket launcher on the bottom? Or just get rid of the Nades.

Heh could someone make this work for JKA, replacing the Repeater with the First Person view working as well.

Ditch it? No way. Its fun to use.

[Stryker.01]

Well ditch the nades then. Either way this rifle Has to be Arc weaponry. Just add a mini PLX Launcher on the bottom >.>

Also whats that map hes on? Pool Day? What server has maps like that? Ones just to mess around on

[Þahricida]

sure if you provide us with a model to use .. Corsairs great looking but a huge resource hog.

[Stryker.01]

The model looks as if it doesn't need a actual launcher on the bottom.
Make it work fully for jka please...

[SithPutty]

Get rid of the nades and replace the rifle with them and add a electro-blob to it.

[SithPutty]

Sorry for double post but, is this project still alive?

[Stryker.01]

Think it was 'Half' finished.

[Corsair]

This project is done...
and has been for at least 3 months.

[SithPutty]

Can you please post the links for the replacement guns in MB please? I'd love to use them.

[Numba 1 Stunna]

Look through the pages.