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When is the SAC gonna be released in the full version?
AceVentura
04-03-2010, 16:23
What full version?
He proably meant in RC4 OR 'full version' as working SAC one :P
Torrentazos
04-03-2010, 16:40
When/If Deathspike shows his code to the MBII team, which i doubt will ever happen.
So start getting used to unprotected servers with wallhackers/aimbotters.
Deathspike
04-03-2010, 16:47
When/If Deathspike shows his code to the MBII team, which i doubt will ever happen.
It already happened. SAC works without any false positve as well.
People like to cling on the errors found at release, that's why it's not used much.
I meant force it on the community, make everyone use it. This voluntary stuff isn't good.
Hexodious
04-03-2010, 18:12
Its up to server owners. I am willing to give it another go.
Torrentazos
04-03-2010, 18:25
Ahh, i was inactive for ages so obviously missed this.
so yeah i say at P4 try to get it going again.
Sure, I'll put it on my server soon.
Although I'm 99% sure that once I do, the activity will go down.. in fact, I'm convinced that the server would go dead.
This voluntary stuff isn't good.
Yes it is.
I don't like hackers, but I like forced anticheat systems even less than I like hackers.
Even though I love SAC, I'm glad it's optional. But it needs to be included with MB so everyone at least has it.
Sure, I'll put it on my server soon.
Although I'm 99% sure that once I do, the activity will go down.. in fact, I'm convinced that the server would go dead.
This is why something needs to change.
^ You mean, the average player should stop acting like a whiny retard and read the stickies if they get an error.
Gunman121
06-03-2010, 23:28
^ You mean, the average player should stop acting like a whiny retard and read the stickies if they get an error.
http://www.moviebattles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30344
http://www.moviebattles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30369
:D
Deathspike please make SAC flagging 'shady' players while pressing tab instead of kicking them. Biggest problem will be solved - it will be possible to use it everywhere without making people quit mb2.
Sure they will have to deal with constant cheating accusations, but some players already have to go through it now.
AceVentura
06-03-2010, 23:47
Mads how will that solve anything? They don't get kicked, they can do whatever they want
^ Because server admins don't know who to watch.. =p
Server admin not always around, or care to kick...
still do not trust sac :S
Gunman121
07-03-2010, 01:38
Server admin not always around, or care to kick...
still do not trust sac :S
Why <_<....
He even stickied a thread, that gives you a tool so if he ever became evil, he could only look at your gamedata stuff.
Why <_<....
He even stickied a thread, that gives you a tool so if he ever became evil, he could only look at your gamedata stuff.
Or so he says. ;)
Gunman121
07-03-2010, 02:23
Or so he says. ;)
My mistake, I can't find the topic anymore o_O
Why <_<
Don't you remember? doll is the original Deathspike-is-evil crusader :P
Deathspike
07-03-2010, 10:49
Yeah the solution would be to make SAC open-source so everyone can compile it thenselves and be sure there is nothing wrong with it. Oh wait, that's not really a solution.. :p Look at http://www.sandboxie.com/ to prevent any program from gaining access to anything else then you specified, including SAC. Just note that when SAC can't get access to files in the JK3 folder, it'll go nuts.
Can't all MBII coders already mess around on our personal computers?
Every time you download MBII.exe and run it you, there is a small risk that wildebeest inserted a virus, but no one cares.
This is such weird argument.
Just release the damn thing, and have profession people look at it if it will cause any harm.
No sandbox bullsht please.
Gunman121
07-03-2010, 16:27
Can't all MBII coders already mess around on our personal computers?
Every time you download MBII.exe and run it you, there is a small risk that wildebeest inserted a virus, but no one cares.
This is such weird argument.
Just release the damn thing, and have profession people look at it if it will cause any harm.
No sandbox bullsht please.
Why though? Listen, I completely trust Wilde. However, why should deathspike be forced to show people his code? He's spent months making it, and not only that. What happens when either
1) The dev, has a fight with Deathspike / bad day - and they release it to everyone out of vengance. Clearly, most of the coders on the team would never do this, but you never know.
2) Peer Pressure? - Say wilde gets the code, and now let's say the others think it's unfair and threaten to leave unless they're let in on it. That's never good.
3) Why? - We have trusted Deathspike the past few builds, why all the hate now - that finally ''your'' hacks will no longer work.
4) Deathspike codes differently then most, what good would it do, if they really don't follow exactly his style.
I dunno, that's just how I feel about it. People seem to be un-willing to test it, but I'll be changing that soon enough.
My mistake, I can't find the topic anymore o_O
I was joking.
Just release the damn thing, and have profession people look at it if it will cause any harm.
If you have it in your folder, SAC always runs when MB is on, even when you are not connected to a SAC server. It just doesn't scan for cheats. However it still uses it's no-cd crack function and stuff.
If it did any harm, everyone who has it in their folders would have already been affected for months.
It does no harm, it's not sending all your internet passwords to Deathspike, IT'S NOT A VIRUS. He does not need to show the code to anyone. Time has told.
It's time to get over the Deathspike is evil crap already.
Anyone who is still scared of it: you are frankly, a small-minded over-paranoid noob.
Anyone who is still scared of it: you are frankly, a small-minded over-paranoid noob.
Nah, there are other reasons why SAC is not yet released mandatory.
Azuvector
08-03-2010, 01:18
Anyone who is still scared of it: you are frankly, a small-minded over-paranoid noob.
http://splicd.com/yXCfEhW0R3k/90/101
Deathspike
08-03-2010, 09:43
He does not need to show the code to anyone. Time has told.
Wildebeest has the current code-base in his possession.
Nah, there are other reasons why SAC is not yet released mandatory.
And this is because:
a) people are too lazy to install a file that takes all of 3 minutes to download, unzip, and move to GameData.
b) people are paranoid of the virus that isn't there.
c) people are hypocrites and want to secretly still hack on unsecured servers.
Honestly, take your pick, because until people get over all of that there is really no way SAC will ever become a household name in MBII. The Brazilians did just fine installing it and it worked surprisingly well for them, I'm not sure why the community as a whole can't follow by their example. :|
Ye but, people will realise is more fun when no one has wallhacks or aimbots.
JohnMatrix
08-03-2010, 18:13
I'd like to see it become mandatory if after some time of public use there are no complaints about it kicking people randomly...
Hexodious
08-03-2010, 18:24
Yeah I agree John, I boot up in SAC just for the nocd thing anyway, having it on servers would only be a good thing.
I think the problem is that SAC sends stuff, so some programs recognise it as a trojan. Why does it need to do this anyway?
Can't we remove the auto update feature from SAC?
Just have a stand alone version.
So when an update comes, everyone has to download the update themselves?
I'm sure vortex prefers auto update, but I see why people think auto update is risky and useless.
Deathspike
09-03-2010, 15:31
Jedi Knight sends 'stuff' too, whereas SAC only sends verification/authentication.
Auto-update will never be removed, as it will defeat the purpose of SAC completely.
I think the problem is that SAC sends stuff, so some programs recognise it as a trojan.
No.
Any program that connects to the internet "sends stuff". Virus scanners flag SAC because of it's encrypted packing. They can't see inside the program so they assume it's a virus and flag it as such.
SAC is packed in such a way to prevent real hackers(the ones that make the hacks that 99% of the MB community uses) from reverse engineering and analyzing it and finding weaknesses to exploit so they can make hacks that get around it.
Can't we remove the auto update feature from SAC?
Uh, why?
Just have a stand alone version.
So when an update comes, everyone has to download the update themselves?
Why do you not want your client to silently update itself?
I see why people think auto update is risky and useless.
Why is an auto update risky and useless?
F0rt1_S3v3N
11-03-2010, 17:29
SAC is a good idea, but there are many bugs for some people, i think that some people should try to help deathspike to try to fix everything, and auto-update isnt risky and useless at all, it's better, you don't have to waste your time on going on the website. Yesterday, i saw someone using wh and aimbot, and now i really want SAC, so if we can help Deathspike in something, it would be GREAT ! :D
Kazul_MB
11-03-2010, 18:55
Thanks for your hard work, Deathspike. Some day soon we will all appreciate your dedication to a haxor free game.
I've had it since it came out, few problems at first but as of now I'm all good. All I need now are some SAC servers. 8D
TockRock
12-03-2010, 00:16
What about macs?
Jedi Knight sends 'stuff' too, whereas SAC only sends verification/authentication.
Auto-update will never be removed, as it will defeat the purpose of SAC completely.
Really?
What can you do with auto update that manual update can not do?
Its risky because you have more power when things can auto update.
The only gain I can think is win of time, people don't lose time to visit a website, and spend time updating.
The whole auto update thing is good. This way we don't need a new release to update the client's stuff. If a new hack / bypass gets released, it can be blocked within days instead of within weeks / months.
The whole auto update thing is good. This way we don't need a new release to update the client's stuff. If a new hack / bypass gets released, it can be blocked within days instead of within weeks / months.
You know this is not true.
And people don't release new hax for MBII very frequently any way.
Furthermore if people do release a hax it's unlikely to spread to entire community really fast.
^
Say that to Owen's hack and to the bypass that was released the last time.
bypass?
Bdw, in all these years, I would not call this Owen hax release "very frequent".
Deathspike
12-03-2010, 16:33
Lucane, there are several skilled hackers playing MBII whom, fortunatly, haven't been releasing their tools to many people. If they did, we'd have a cat and mouse game on our hands - hackers versus a single goofy guy who works on this only when required, with very little time. Luckily that didn't happen, but there are also leaks and freelance hackers releasing their tools into the entire scene, rather then just MBII. Automatic updates were introduced to count such releases on short notice without having to wait for MBII's update cylce (which is, as you know, really slow). Note there haven't been updates for a long time, perhaps because every ignores SAC and perhaps because there haven't been many new hack release. Removing an available and absolutely necessary feature, however, is silly beyond belief.
Not silly beyond belief.
Thing is, SAC is just there, no one uses it.
If removing auto update thing means that,people are less afraid of it, and SAC will finally be used, then its good reason.
Why not release SAC without auto update, and when it catches on, add auto update in "slow" MBII next release cycle?
Then at least people will use SAC, and all your "precious" time, is not wasted in vain.
Hexodious
12-03-2010, 17:51
I am pretty sure people will be giving SAC another try on their servers on the next patch when its a fresh start.
Really?
What can you do with auto update that manual update can not do?
Its risky because you have more power when things can auto update.
The only gain I can think is win of time, people don't lose time to visit a website, and spend time updating.
You also risk version incompatibility. How is this different than antiviruses updating virus definitions?
You know this is not true.
And people don't release new hax for MBII very frequently any way.
Furthermore if people do release a hax it's unlikely to spread to entire community really fast.
You would know, since you're the expert.
I think you missed Owen's hack and the MB cheat system bypass, which enabled anyone to use any hack already in existence.
Both spread to the entire community. Really fast.
I believe you also missed when RC1 came out with that really primitive anticheat that gave the bg_alloc error, how many people had "opengl32.dll"(aka, hacks) in thier gamedata folders.
So how about you stop trolling this thread with arguments you are pulling out of your rear end?
Kazul_MB
12-03-2010, 22:50
So how about you stop trolling this thread with arguments you are pulling out of your rear end?
That's uncalled for. I can see why he is so suspicious, you can never fully trust someone's word on the internet. From what I read (all of it, not just snippets) he has a valid argument.
To me it's like comparing to why MBII builds aren't automatic, even the cmps. Those are still very manual, even w/ the downloader. And as we all know these builds take a lot of time, yet no auto-update has been created and probably won't.
From what I read (all of it, not just snippets) he has a valid argument.
How is it valid?
He states auto update is dangerous but manual is not. Why? He won't say. It just is.
He states hacks do not spread quickly through MB community. Obviously not true as history attests. Heck, he doesn't even know about the anticheat bypass.
It may be valid in his reality, but it isn't valid.
As for MB being autoupdated, it could be done but it would take more work, since you would have to keep almost 100 files up to date compared to like 2 with SAC, and the updates would be in the gigabyte range compared to like 600k
Anyway I'll stop now -,-
That's uncalled for. I can see why he is so suspicious, you can never fully trust someone's word on the internet. From what I read (all of it, not just snippets) he has a valid argument.
To me it's like comparing to why MBII builds aren't automatic, even the cmps. Those are still very manual, even w/ the downloader. And as we all know these builds take a lot of time, yet no auto-update has been created and probably won't.
Nobody has bothered to fix the old one, and I'm not sure if MBII's download servers can even support such a thing anymore.
TockRock
13-03-2010, 02:04
Hey, what about macs? Nobody's answered my question =/
I think deathspike said he needs a mac to make a mac compatible version a while back
redsaurus
13-03-2010, 02:29
yeah, a native mac version's not happening (although SAC should eventually work on macs if you're running JA through wine - don't think it does so currently)
TockRock
13-03-2010, 03:32
yeah, a native mac version's not happening (although SAC should eventually work on macs if you're running JA through wine - don't think it does so currently)
Y'know, you could really cut down on the amount of hackers or at least their advantages while boosting gameplay speed by removing proj/ruptor. After all, at least they won't be instagimping you as you come out of cover.
Or what about putting a red light or something on the scoreboard next to the name of whoever's running any program other than xfire, browsers, etc.? Eh? Eh? Eh? >.>'
Or... I'll just get a pseudo separate operating system to play a game who's hacker problems could be simply solved by competent server admins.
Y'know, you could really cut down on the amount of hackers or at least their advantages while boosting gameplay speed by removing proj/ruptor. After all, at least they won't be instagimping you as you come out of cover.
Whatever.
Or what about putting a red light or something on the scoreboard next to the name of whoever's running any program other than xfire, browsers, etc.? Eh? Eh? Eh? >.>'
Other than the fact that its near impossible to close everything else, many cheats use DLLs instead of normal exes.
Or... I'll just get a pseudo separate operating system to play a game who's hacker problems could be simply solved by competent server admins.
Bingo. At first I thought you were just stringing words together.
Torrentazos
13-03-2010, 13:05
So, how is SAC all good and dandy if it still isn't compatible with MACs?
I don't use a mac so it doesn't bother me, but if SAC was massively integrated again, then those who use SAC without wine wont be able to play?
Bingo. At first I thought you were just stringing words together.
Srsly, why are you so angry?
We want SAC to be released, so do you :-/
What is the problem here?
We argument that that auto update has both pros and cons (like most things in life). You might not agree with the cons, but no need to flame people.
Srsly, why are you so angry?
I was joking with Tock. (The n00bah ;D)
We want SAC to be released, so do you :-/
What is the problem here?
SAC is already released. O_o
We argument that that auto update has both pros and cons (like most things in life). You might not agree with the cons, but no need to flame people.
My argument is that SAC is like an antivirus (or OS update :p) and needs to be updated regularly, to reduce incompatibilities and keep MBII safe. The only "con" is that DeathSpike could do something evil to the files. But you run that risk with any program you download, and I trust him not to.
What do you have against DS? First this topic, then the private topic...
We want SAC to be released, so do you :-/
What is the problem here?
You really must be clueless... It was released months and months ago, but people cry and moan that it's too difficult to set up for them, or their FREE antivirus is classifying it as a generic trojan.
If you guys want support for this, you'll need to support it yourselves. The majority of servers don't use it, actually, only one server runs it currently.
Note that I tried to run it on my server, but it didn't work. Even gave Deathspike my FTP but everything was fine. Even tried playing around with the names.. so yeah.
Deathspike
15-03-2010, 15:21
It must have had something to do with the folder permissions, which you can't edit from FTP. It ran fine on the same server as you have Sxx.
You really must be clueless... It was released months and months ago, but people cry and moan that it's too difficult to set up for them, or their FREE antivirus is classifying it as a generic trojan.
If you guys want support for this, you'll need to support it yourselves. The majority of servers don't use it, actually, only one server runs it currently.
oh *sigh*, read before you flame me please...
Not released as in available, but released like it says in thread title! Mandatory release, so people actually use it.
oh *sigh*, read before you flame me please...
Not released as in available, but released like it says in thread title! Mandatory release, so people actually use it.
Because people won't, and the team can't really enforce it and force people to play on SAC secured servers.
Angrenost
15-03-2010, 23:11
Why not?
- because people fear the program as it registers as a trojan on some anti vir.
- because people have trouble installing
- because people are lazy, and need some encouragement, which is currently not provided
- because people fear the program as it registers as a trojan on some anti vir.
- because people have trouble installing
- because people are lazy, and need some encouragement, which is currently not provided
All problems you will have with your alternative.
- because people fear the program as it registers as a trojan on some anti vir.
- because people have trouble installing
- because people are lazy, and need some encouragement, which is currently not provided
1. And they've already been told how to run it safely on they computer, they just refuse to listen.
2. There's actually an easy as hell to follow guide to it in these forums. Also, what's so difficult about copying files into a folder? It's really no different than installing MBII.
3. Wallhacks is no excuse for being lazy.
Torrentazos
16-03-2010, 22:11
- because people have trouble installing
- because people are lazy, and need some encouragement, which is currently not provided
These are not valid reasons.
For starters, the problems with installing SAC for windows users are all fixed. And, as supa stated there are tons of help topics here showing you how to copy and paste the files into a folder.
If SAC is made to be used with MBII, then you don't need encouragement to use it; it's already compulsory.
The only valid reason is the first point you made, because people sh1t themselves because it sometimes gets detected as a virus when it's just a false positive.
I think you'll find alot of the whiners who say it isn't installing correctly are just people who use hacks, so they are not going to bow down to something that will stop their unfair, noobish, ridiculous, complete queer advantage. Or they have used hacks in the past and have forgotten to remove the files, alot of kids and some older guys really are this stupid.
Reasons might not be valid :P
Still,... if nothing is gonna change SAC will remain unused.
Reasons might not be valid :P
Still,... if nothing is gonna change SAC will remain unused.
Yeah... And there isn't really much that can be done about it. You aren't going to force anyone to use it because they'd just as quickly quit playing. It's really up to the admin whether or not they want to ban hackers or not. And it's simply, don't play on a server with admin that don't do **** about it.
Angrenost
17-03-2010, 12:55
SAC should be incorporated into the release and the last incompabilities worked out. Also server owners should still be able to disable SAC from their server. Then everyone would have SAC at least and server owners could decide if they want SAC booting cheaters and a margin of non-cheaters off or not and those who have incompability issues with SAC would probably still have servers to go on. At the moment a problem is that many people don't even have the program and they have to go though some (minimal) effort to get it to work.
First, let me introduce myself, as my nickname here is for some random reason different of the one i'm known in Brasil.
I'm Daniel, also known as Zairon. Current Rcon of Brazilian Movie battles server and supporter of SAC.
A few months ago, we had some trouble with cheaters and I decided to install SAC on the server. Was a thought decision, cuz what many ppl say, actually happened there. Server became half empty for a a few a couple of weeks.
Surprisingly enough... it wasn't because of some random anti-virus had issues with it. I use a grown up boy anti-virus myself (Nod32) and never had issues with SAC...
It was cuz of general laziness.
Knowing it was a risky move, I decided to keep it for some time and wait.
In a few days, those ppl who were too lazy, started to suffer from drug-game withdrawal and had to download it.
Server went back to normal, with a very few cases of SAC randomly killing ppl that would swear to you that they didn't had any suspicious file in their folders.
Funny thing happened when ppl started to play again... some players(snipers) that used to make amazing scores started to go negative... figures :rolleyes:
SAC only helped Brazilian Movie Battles community... even most of our home-based servers use it.
think thats all for now...
Daniel 'Zairon' Gadelha.
See... the south americans are doing it right, but ****ing north american (U.S.) servers owners can't get it right, like wtf. I know... I shouldn't expect much, since most of the north american players are either too lazy to install SAC, scared of SAC as their anti-virus reports it as a trojan (which is not btw), or want to be l337 with teh haxorz.
Khol if I didn't lag too much on servers outside the US I'd go play on yours.
Hawk, I'm 90% sure that they host their servers in the US. It's awesome because I always have a better ping than everyone else. :p
In that case I am coming to your servers sometime soon. looooool
haha be most welcome... 200.179.40.131:29070
SAC is no longer a problem to us atm...
personally it never were to me... get a good antivirus, that don't panic with everything like I do... Nod32 from ESET is probably the current best antivirus around and he knows SAC is a good boy.
We are fighting a different war in our servers now... war against 24/7 mb2_dotf.... its been a pain, but I believe that after some time we'll be able to make people know other maps.
now... about SAC again... I have this friend who runs movie battles and has Jedi Academy trough Steam. He uses Trend Micro pro Antivirus. Told him to add his game folder at the exception link but its not working so far... ideas?
Thanks.
Zairon.
ps: gotta ask some forum mod to change my nick from Khol to Zairon =X
Now... about SAC again... I have this friend who runs movie battles and has Jedi Academy through Steam. He uses Trend Micro Pro Anti-Virus. I Told him to add his game folder at the exception list, but it's not working so far... ideas?
It must be the anti-virus itself that it's exception list is not working right or either he switches to another reliable anti-virus program or just turn-off/disable the anti-virus while playing online games.
BlackBolt
12-04-2010, 22:10
See... the south americans are doing it right, but ****ing north american (U.S.) servers owners can't get it right, like wtf. I know... I shouldn't expect much, since most of the north american players are either too lazy to install SAC, scared of SAC as their anti-virus reports it as a trojan (which is not btw), or want to be l337 with teh haxorz.
They don't want to lose traffic to their servers. I don't get why it's so hard to just type in moviebattles.com in your browser, go to the download page...........and download SAC? But then again there are the stupid people who think OMG VIRUS NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MY PORNNNNN!
My PC is a rusty peice of poop but I didn't get any problems, so you have no excuse =p.
They don't want to lose traffic to their servers.
we lost a little bit of traffic for only a couple of weeks... then ppl saw there was no alternative and got it.
See... the south americans are doing it right, but ****ing north american (U.S.) servers owners can't get it right, like wtf. I know... I shouldn't expect much, since most of the north american players are either too lazy to install SAC, scared of SAC as their anti-virus reports it as a trojan (which is not btw), or want to be l337 with teh haxorz.
I actually enjoy playing on the Brazilian server, other than the **** I get for not living in Brazil, yet playing there. lol
BlackBolt
13-04-2010, 15:30
we lost a little bit of traffic for only a couple of weeks... then ppl saw there was no alternative and got it.
It is safe to say that you are smarter than the owners of the most popular north american server owners =p
Not smarter, just braver.
Not smarter, just braver.
yep.. not smarter...
I just don't mind taking some risks.
We don't pay for our server. A Brazilian telecommunications company hosts the server for us and my contact there trusts every move I take...
I told him that with SAC, servers would go down on number of players for a couple of weeks, but their policy there is totally against any form of hack or exploit in their servers... so he was pretty happy when we got SAC to work.
Rcons are easy target for critics... sometimes you get called some nice names...
but Brazilian community was quite happy when they could jump out of DOTF main corridor without being sniped by aim-bot.
The Brazilian community is just tighter than the rest of the community. They only have two servers they can play on, unlike the two dozen US/EU servers.
Deathspike
16-04-2010, 12:52
At least somebody is enjoying SAC :)
EW doesn't use it because we have members on macs. Otherwise we probably would.
At least somebody is enjoying SAC :)
Well until you have a solution, I can't even use it at Elite's servers. >_>'
EW doesn't use it because we have members on macs. Otherwise we probably would.
LOL Macs.
EW doesn't use it because we have members on macs. Otherwise we probably would.
I'm yet to find out why a human being would opt for a mac...
I know its pretty, shiny, sexy...etc, but I'm a practical person... rather paying 3 times less for something 3 times more powerfull (hardware wise =p)
its funny cuz ppl still think nowadays that macs dont get virus... haha
plus... after Win7... mac OS X is just a very good OS that can hold up to 1million gigs of RAM... pff like I would get all that =p
Back to SAC,
it blocks projected shadows, but ppl can still use volumetric... any reason for it to block only one of them?
Because projected shadows are more as evil as volumetric shadows. :rolleyes: And btw. SAC doesn't block them. It just switch it and everyone can happily switch it back in options. I'm sure there is a command to simply switch it to projected shadows with a keybind too.
Because projected shadows are more as evil as volumetric shadows. :rolleyes: And btw. SAC doesn't block them. It just switch it and everyone can happily switch it back in options. I'm sure there is a command to simply switch it to projected shadows with a keybind too.
Projected is about the same as volumetric... Volumetric tho.. has some transparence... and makes some older computer faint with low fps.
as for the bind, its
cg_shadows 1 for simple shadows
cg_shadows 2 for volumetric shadows
cg_shadows 3 for projected shadows...
tho, SAC changes projected shadows back to simple shadows every time you activate it, AND if you insist... it sometimes decide do kick you =D
It is not the same. ^^ A lot more buggy and it gives you advantages in some situations. That's why he decided to deactivate it. When I used to play on SAC servers I was able to switch it back to projected over and over again. It was remaining for one or more rounds and SAC never kicked me. ^^
hmm.. anyone plays moviebattles trought Steam here? I have a friend fighting SAC now to make it work... where exactly he has to get those files.... and how to proceed with steam?
The steam game is located in steam/steamapps/common right? Should not exist more problems as usual with sac. In this thread (http://www.moviebattles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29172) are some opinions and discussions about steam version and sac.
barbarian
20-04-2010, 18:18
@ This SAC auto update function.
Just hypothetical:
Does vortex have to power to update SAC and turn SAC into a virus or trojan any time in the future?
Can someone please assure me that he can't?
Deathspike
20-04-2010, 18:39
Nobody can assure you that, the power is there... as with every piece of updating software you have.
In other words, yes, he can and he's gonna git ya!
In reality vortex is a hacker based in the Philippines attempting to entrap this entire mods player base in a diabolical plan to take over Mexico and then...Canada!!!
He will do this...through porn!
@ This SAC auto update function.
Just hypothetical:
Does vortex have to power to update SAC and turn SAC into a virus or trojan any time in the future?
Can someone please assure me that he can't?
Yes he does, but the MB team could turn MB into a virus anytime too ya know.
barbarian
22-04-2010, 14:14
Yes he does, but the MB team could turn MB into a virus anytime too ya know.
No, MBII hasn't got an auto update.
StarWarsGeek
22-04-2010, 21:48
No, MBII hasn't got an auto update.
But how do you know that when you download the next MBII release that they haven't turned the mod into a super virus that will eat your PC?
But how do you know that when you download the next MBII release that they haven't turned the mod into a super virus that will eat your PC?
Nothing can go trough Nod32 defenses...
Deathspike
23-04-2010, 09:03
Nothing can go trough Nod32 defenses...
And neither can an update that is written to disk (on-access scanner).
barbarian
23-04-2010, 13:29
But how do you know that when you download the next MBII release that they haven't turned the mod into a super virus that will eat your PC?
Because then I can look and see what I'm doing.
Opposed to an auto update in the middle of the night when I'm half a sleep.
Hexodious
25-04-2010, 15:55
So you can read all the dlls and know if anything virusey has been put in them?
Nah I don't see it, the next build comes out you will insantly download and play without even thinking thus executing any viruses that -could- have been put in.
barbarian
25-04-2010, 23:27
So you can read all the dlls and know if anything virusey has been put in them?
Nah I don't see it, the next build comes out you will insantly download and play without even thinking thus executing any viruses that -could- have been put in.
No, all my manual downloads are thoroughly scanned by my virus scanner and spyware scanner.
I'm pretty sure it only autoupdates when you run JKA.
AceVentura
26-04-2010, 00:21
Sac only updates if you execute the updater...
Deathspike
26-04-2010, 09:08
That's not true, it has the ability to update while you're playing the game. However, it has to unload the module and write the newly downloaded one to disk. This surely triggers any virus-scanner, especially AVG's On-Access scanner goes nuts, but as always only poor scanners give a false positive (Yes, even though AVG is not bad most of the time, it's free and has a lot of false positives). Most of you are completely obsessed with possibilities, it's also possible that iTunes gives you spyware (Wait, wait, it does!)!
svearike
27-04-2010, 22:34
since sac was available i've not seen a single server with it
since sac was available i've not seen a single server with it
Brazilian moviebattles community uses it... and it works amazingly.
since sac was available i've not seen a single server with it
You mean in the game browser? That's because you need an additional file afaik to see the servers in browser. Here you can get it: http://sac-project.co.cc/download/
For some inexplicable reasons I tested it out a few weeks ago, but I didn't get it to work anymore. First time it was a simple dll file which you can find somewhere in the forums with step-by-step tutorial perhaps. Now it is a pk3 file and the readme is not very informative. Anyway if I copy the file in the JA folder the game won't start and if I try the mb2 folder I get a crappy JA menu (do not want!). Maybe they fixed it in RC3.4 or V0 anyway that you don't need the file or else devs still not care about to show SAC servers in game browser. I don't know.
Yoshimitsu
04-05-2010, 04:07
Brazilian moviebattles community uses it... and it works amazingly.Did you ever saw Brazilian wallhack\aimbot user before sax released ? Just curious.
You mean in the game browser? That's because you need an additional file afaik to see the servers in browser. Here you can get it: http://sac-project.co.cc/download/
For some inexplicable reasons I tested it out a few weeks ago, but I didn't get it to work anymore. First time it was a simple dll file which you can find somewhere in the forums with step-by-step tutorial perhaps. Now it is a pk3 file and the readme is not very informative. Anyway if I copy the file in the JA folder the game won't start and if I try the mb2 folder I get a crappy JA menu (do not want!). Maybe they fixed it in RC3.4 or V0 anyway that you don't need the file or else devs still not care about to show SAC servers in game browser. I don't know.
It should be fixed now. The problem is people being lazy and not installing it.
Did you ever saw Brazilian wallhack\aimbot user before sax released ? Just curious.
aimbot and wallhacks have been here for a long time... since jk2-jk3 some ctf ppl used it alot aswell.
Did you ever saw Brazilian wallhack\aimbot user before sax released ? Just curious.
I am amazed that people even question the existence of hackers when this community is so filled with them.
I am amazed that people even question the existence of hackers when this community is so filled with them.
No way.
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