Pseudo T3... [Archive] - MovieBattles Community

Supa

29-10-2008, 02:59

Pseudo Q3 you mean? It doesn't really have the same kind of effect as Q3 does anymore... Or at least not from my experience since I use PQ3 when I'm sabering.

Azuvector

29-10-2008, 06:12

No such thing. However, try using this replacement, maybe it'll make it clearer to you...
It adds the efx on the right--which was removed for aesthetic reasons by Ben--when a 'blaster passhrough' occurs. That is, a blaster bolt hits your lightsaber, and you cannot block it for whatever reason... And it passes right through your saber and out the other side. The efx tends to make it extremely apparent when this is occurring, and easy to spot, instead of playing the normal deflect efx(Or a slightly different one that I don't think anyone but Ben can tell apart from the normal one, I guess.), which can be easy to confuse with the blaster bolt being deflected if you don't watch it continue through the saber.

Mashirafen

30-10-2008, 01:28

And you sat through all the complaints about this in the past and never linked anybody to this replacement why? =|

Lasersailor184

30-10-2008, 02:00

prilladog

30-10-2008, 06:10

Welcome to MB2.

Mr. Box

30-10-2008, 07:23

Welcome to MB2.

Hes been here longer then you.

GRIMMAH!!

30-10-2008, 07:28

by a year and a half.. lol

Varlesh

30-10-2008, 14:49

Pseudo Q3 does not exist. You need to hit his body, not his saber.

MAS

30-10-2008, 21:23

by a year and a half.. lol

Not everyone creates a account as they start to play. Mine came over half a year afterwards.

Golden Mando Bro

30-10-2008, 21:29

Yeah i played much longer than oct 2006, i just never really bothered to make a forum acct until then. jeez 2006 was like.. b18? b17?

Andrew Past

30-10-2008, 21:55

I'll try the efx.

However, what I see is very aggravating. I tag someone 5-6 times while they are running, think Q3 (sorry, keep thinking T3) and go to run, then have them push me over.

But you are saying that even though I should be landing body shots, the deflect animation is playing errantly, and all my shots (though extremely well aimed) are passing harmlessly through?
What he's saying is that if someone is out of force or swinging (non-Q3) shots ignore that the saber is even there. In other words, if you're aiming at the Jedi, the shots hit the Jedi.

Lasersailor184

30-10-2008, 23:07

What he's saying is that if someone is out of force or swinging (non-Q3) shots ignore that the saber is even there. In other words, if you're aiming at the Jedi, the shots hit the Jedi.

I understand what he's saying.

However it doesn't seem to work that way. I aim at the body of a running jedi / sith who doesn't have Q3. If they have their points set up right, they'll be able to block a few shots that would have landed on the body.

The aggravating part is that if I see Q3 being employed (whether or not they actually have it), I go to run only to get pushed over.

What's the command for recording a demo? If I see anyone doing it tonight, I'll start recording my engagements with him/her. I'll also have the efx mod in place, so I'll be able to see if he was right from the beginning.

Mr. Box

30-10-2008, 23:13

The ingame demo recorder has bad quality, lags and requires server to specifically allow it...
Use other programs, like fraps...

Andrew Past

30-10-2008, 23:13

However it doesn't seem to work that way. I aim at the body of a running jedi / sith who doesn't have Q3. If they have their points set up right, they'll be able to block a few shots that would have landed on the body.
It's all in your head. You're either missing or aiming for the saber and not the body. I've had no problems with "Psuedo Q3" since shot passthrough was added to beta a couple builds ago.

Daven Coyle

31-10-2008, 02:17

I tag someone 5-6 times while they are running, think Q3 (sorry, keep thinking T3) and go to run, then have them push me over.

seems like you think only jedi with q3 can block while running....

Varlesh

31-10-2008, 13:43

What's the command for recording a demo? If I see anyone doing it tonight, I'll start recording my engagements with him/her. I'll also have the efx mod in place, so I'll be able to see if he was right from the beginning.
Not sure of the command but you can just bind it in controls --> Media.

Supa

31-10-2008, 18:50

When I use PQ3 I don't get the Q3 effect, I just somehow swing through the shots because of the way this build's deflect animations work. :p

Varlesh

31-10-2008, 19:00

When I use PQ3 I don't get the Q3 effect, I just somehow swing through the shots because of the way this build's deflect animations work. :p

Dont comment on things you dont have a clue about. Just to clarify : Never listen to Supas posts they're usually just nonsense. Deflect animations play no part in gameplay.

Supa

31-10-2008, 19:12

No u, asshat.

Lasersailor184

31-10-2008, 23:57

seems like you think only jedi with q3 can block while running....

I might be mistaken, but I thought that was the intent...

Andrew Past

01-11-2008, 00:40

I might be mistaken, but I thought that was the intent...
No... Q3 allows Jedi to block shots while swinging, at a higher FP drain cost.

Azuvector

01-11-2008, 03:34

I might be mistaken, but I thought that was the intent...

And this is why a lot of complaints don't get taken seriously. Because they're based on completely incorrect assumptions. :)

Lasersailor184

01-11-2008, 20:39

And this is why a lot of complaints don't get taken seriously. Because they're based on completely incorrect assumptions. :)

Ok then. Is there a difference between a Q3'er and a non Q3'er taking hits while running?

Doll

01-11-2008, 21:08

Ok then. Is there a difference between a Q3'er and a non Q3'er taking hits while running?

Get more FP drained as Q3. Is all.

F-200 Efreet

01-11-2008, 21:50

Deflect animations play no part in gameplay.

Well, they actually do in one way. If you get a deflect animation and swing, that swing will be a really fast one, much like the überfast q3 swings.

Varlesh

01-11-2008, 21:52

No, thats the parrying off the blaster bolts :p

Andrew Past

02-11-2008, 07:27

No, thats the parrying off the blaster bolts :p
He does have a point, though. The deflect animation acts as a que to you telling you that you can parry off the bolt.

Mashirafen

02-11-2008, 12:13

Wha? Parrying of the blaster bolt?

Andrew Past

02-11-2008, 20:35

Wha? Parrying of the blaster bolt?
Yup. That's what causes the faster swing animation when you're getting shot at.

Mr. Box

02-11-2008, 21:02

And this is why a lot of complaints don't get taken seriously. Because they're based on completely incorrect assumptions. :)

No offence...
But the reason why many complaints are based on incorrect assumptions
is because you dont give us all the info on how the mod works.
(You = MBT)

Subaru

02-11-2008, 21:14

No offence...
But the reason why many complaints are based on incorrect assumptions
is because you dont give us all the info on how the mod works.
(You = MBT)

I think its just because people are too lazy to use the search feature\wiki >_>

Mr. Box

03-11-2008, 06:31

I think its just because people are too lazy to use the search feature\wiki >_>

So you dare claim they have told you everything?
With huge flame wars raging they just pop out telling all of these thoughts in the last 5 pages are wrong. :x

Varlesh

03-11-2008, 12:19

No offence...
But the reason why many complaints are based on incorrect assumptions
is because you dont give us all the info on how the mod works.
(You = MBT)

Tbh, Pseudo Q3 has been talked about enough for you all to realize it isn't true :P

Mr. Box

03-11-2008, 16:07

Tbh, Pseudo Q3 has been talked about enough for you all to realize it isn't true :P

I didnt just mean talk about pseudo Q3 v.v

Azuvector

03-11-2008, 20:25

No offence...
But the reason why many complaints are based on incorrect assumptions
is because you dont give us all the info on how the mod works.
(You = MBT)

Sure I do, when the topic comes up. It's just ignored 90% of the time.
http://www.moviebattles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17878 Out of date in some aspects, but, one loses interest in keeping such information up to date when it gets ignored in favour of people randomly making up things to complain about.

Lasersailor184

03-11-2008, 23:41

Ok, I withdraw my comments. I apologize.

But just so you know, it isn't really spelled out anywhere that I could find, wiki included.

Mr. Box

04-11-2008, 06:52

Sure I do, when the topic comes up. It's just ignored 90% of the time.
http://www.moviebattles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17878 Out of date in some aspects, but, one loses interest in keeping such information up to date when it gets ignored in favour of people randomly making up things to complain about.

Im not saying your keeping us completely in the dark.
I just said that you arent telling us everything... (Theres always something new and unknown in these threads)