View Full Version : Risk TKing someone okay?
MasterExarKun
03-03-2005, 21:09
I got yelled at the other day for shooting at a jedi who was about to saber a villian on my team. The villian was pushed and the jedi was righht on top of him. So of course, I accidently kill both of them.
And then later I was using flame while the gunner was behind me against Jedi. So he'd be able to shoot them and i'd keep them at bay. Of course he runs in front of my flame and gets hurt.
Was I wrong in still shooting while a jedi was sabering someone? That's the best time to attack a jedi as a gunner. And I for one would be upset if the gunner didn't shoot the jedi as he was sabering me. Risk TKing me, more then likley I'll be dead anyway. And a stray shot or two won't matter. A saber can kill a full health gunner just as easily as a gunner with 1 hp left so I take the risk long as I got a descent shot I take it.
I mean, am I right to assume its best to still shoot and risk an accidently TK when you know your team mate is screwed more then likely anyway?
I think people need to know their own skill really when making these decisions. Personally I rarely miss so I take the chance, but if you know you're a bad shot it might not be the best idea.
The few people who can actually shoot sith/jedi when they are dueling as really useful
Jedistrike
03-03-2005, 21:37
i also think that acidus, for me i know im not best shot, if the person is GOING to die from a jedi slicing him and everyone knows it i will shoot, no matter what, if i think the person has a chance to move i wont shoot, and i will hold back, but if the jedi is say last person on enamy team and i have chance of A letting teammate die trying and then going one on one wit the jedi or sith, or pulling a det and blowing the crap out of the both of them, i would take the second option, for it would be in teams best interest
=DavikKang=
03-03-2005, 23:21
I think people need to know their own skill really when making these decisions. Personally I rarely miss so I take the chance, but if you know you're a bad shot it might not be the best idea.
The few people who can actually shoot sith/jedi when they are dueling as really useful
What he said.
Also, the best time to kill jedi is from a 120 degree angle as they are going for a floored gunner. I even have binds telling troops to let themselves be pushed so that I can blast the jedi as they try to finish them. If I ever get floored, you can be sure that I am spamming my "shoot them!" bind. Unfortunately, good help is hard to come by these days.
The thing about flame that annoys me is when a sith is facin a jedi and the mand runs in front of the sith and flames. The jedi pushes the mand back and the sith gets all the flame.
El Vi-Riachi
03-03-2005, 23:26
yes i try to help gunner if they are pushed down in order to kill the jedi, 95% of the time it works, only cause i know im a good shot, but sometimes i kill them both, whats better? to die by a jedi and is still alive or to kill the jedi and risk killing your team mate in order to save him? cause if you did nothing he'd be dead anyways
If their gona die try and save them, theyl be very thankfull if it works. But NEVER EVER flame a dueling pair. And don't shoot at jedi/sith duels if you can't aim try to get behind the enimey and have your ally faceing u, and time your shots. That way if you miss your ally will block any way.
MasterExarKun
04-03-2005, 00:18
If their gona die try and save them, theyl be very thankfull if it works. But NEVER EVER flame a dueling pair. And don't shoot at jedi/sith duels if you can't aim try to get behind the enimey and have your ally faceing u, and time your shots. That way if you miss your ally will block any way.
Well, I think i'm one of the top 10 snipers in MB easily, maybe top 5, and one of my favorite things to do is to sniper out a jedi dueling like 3 of my sith. (i usually play Empire). Like as soon as the jedi takes a swing, to vaporize him. Now occationally I miss and hit my own guy. I think its happened like 3 times maybe ? out of the dozens of times I've done this. I think it that situation if the sniper is good enough i.e. myself or Davik, then its okay to shoot with a disruptor.
and yes, i know that paragraph sounds arrogant :P but honestly I'm a pretty good snipe and people who play with me often usually agree.
If you're so good of a shot then why make this thread...? :p
If it only happens once in a while its ok. Sometimes when I see a pushed soldier and a jedi swinging at him I just blow them both up.
As I and my step always say "Do what you must to overcome the enemy" ;)
DaveGrohl
04-03-2005, 00:59
you can either
Try and shoot the jedi ending in a possible kill of both the jedi in your team mate
or
leave your team amte to get killed by the jedi then the jedi kills you
MasterExarKun
04-03-2005, 01:35
If you're so good of a shot then why make this thread...? :p
If it only happens once in a while its ok. Sometimes when I see a pushed soldier and a jedi swinging at him I just blow them both up.
i'm good with a disruptor zoomed in at a safe distance without any gunners shooting back at me giving me ample time to wait for an opening :P
I'm talking about when I have an E11 usually as a soldier lol I'm not that good of a shot with an E11, i just get lucky a lot when i use it :P
Unfortunately, good help is hard to come by these days.
Whew, thought it was only me thinking that.
Anyway, It is best to try to help your teammate by shooting the Sith/Jedi, especially if your teammate is gonna die anyway.
If it is PAPA you're trying to save, don't bother You might end up killing him accidently and he'll just get annoyed with you. :p
MasterExarKun
04-03-2005, 03:52
Whew, thought it was only me thinking that.
Anyway, It is best to try to help your teammate by shooting the Sith/Jedi, especially if your teammate is gonna die anyway.
If it is PAPA you're trying to save, don't bother You might end up killing him accidently and he'll just get annoyed with you. :p
LOL! That's exactly who I made the post about lol
Papa proceeded to TK me, which I of course TKed him back and then we agreed to a truce. Then he TKed me again..
So Papa is the only one who doesn't like being saved by his team mates? Gotcha
A revenge tk from an accidental tk?
so not cool...
Can we keep the gossiping to a minimum?
Nope. People who are complete a-holes should be called out on it till they get really depressed from the rejection and take care of our problem for us, if you know what i mean.
Aside from that, i always risk AT LEAST some warning shots to scare off the jedi (aimed a little far towards the jedi/sith to avoid my teammate as best i can), if not full-on shots at the jedi... you'd be surprised how few people say thank you, especially for how many times i've done it :-\
Generic anti noob rule, DONT shoot someone thats pushed down and guaranteed to die when a jedi/sith is 2 feet from them swinging at the ground. Go do something more productive than being a greedy kill noob that sacrafices your team mates to get that # up.
As for the flame thing, if he ran INTO your flame then its his own damn fault. If your flaming half your team to get one gunner thats hopelessly pinned down by either gun fire or sith you deserve to die. I don't understand the logic myself... you kill or damn near kill your entire team to get ONE guy when their whole team is just waiting around the corner.
[KP] Tokakeke
04-03-2005, 16:15
Generic anti noob rule, DONT shoot someone thats pushed down and guaranteed to die when a jedi/sith is 2 feet from them swinging at the ground.
Um..what?
MasterExarKun
04-03-2005, 17:41
Generic anti noob rule, DONT shoot someone thats pushed down and guaranteed to die when a jedi/sith is 2 feet from them swinging at the ground. Go do something more productive than being a greedy kill noob that sacrafices your team mates to get that # up.
I meant in the case of you being on the same team as the pushed gunner, not as the jedi.
I usually shoot at gunners on the enemy team that are pushed until the jedi gets close then I cease fire. I usually don't hurt the jedi, and if its a villian and the jedi was far enough away for me to shoot at the villian, chances are he's going to get up before the jedi gets there.
[Cui-Unit] P-Duffy
05-03-2005, 02:16
If a sith is point blank vs a gunner other than a wookiee i will always risk it because that gunner is dead anyways, unless he has a det, jedi verses sith tho i ALWAYS let them duel unless the odds are against my side, then i'll try to get a few shots in.
Generally I find that shooting a jedi while in battle with a sith or vice versa is only acceptable when you know you have a clear shot. But from what I have read here, the revenge team kill was totally unnecessary. You can't teach maturity to some people boyo.
At the end of matters, you really should have waited until the shot was clear enough for you(not risking a team kill anywho), although a revenge team kill was not needed.
|_maPex_|
05-03-2005, 08:35
I admit - I revenge TK a lot, but not when a gunner accidentally shoots me while goin for a Jedi that pushed me down. I do it when that Manda flames me and/or half my team while taking out a single Jedi. I do it when someone rockets a Jedi head-on after repeated warnings to NOT do that. I do it when someone joins a firefight late, runs up behind a teammate or me and blows their health to hell til it reaches 10hp while 'trying' to hit the enemy (there is a big warning in big text that says "Do not shoot your teammates! You will lose points!").
The reason I revenge TK or TK in general is just b/c of stupid players to teach them a lesson. I never TK to piss ppl off or b/c of kill greediness (although every1 does touch the darkside once in a while, and no matter how much of an angel I wish I was I cannot totally let go of greed). In any case, TKing someone in that sense should be nodded off and forgotten about by the TKee. If he cares so much as to get a revenge TK for the TKer trying to save the TKee's ass, that is just effing retarded.
About Papa, and I hate personal attacks but this needs to be called out, he blatantly shot me up, rocketed, and flamed me (we were both Mandas) for me accidentally headshotting him (not killing him) when I was flying around taking out about 3 to 4 Republic soldiers. He still refuses to admit this, but everyone saw it and I eventually got the DK (not Donkey Kong) to kick him.
That is just stupid. Immaturity of...bah what's the use. No point fighting whats happening to the community, might as well just accept it and have all the 18+ year olds be the bitches of the 7 year olds. I always thought growing up would let me be able to dictate the rules, but as I get older it seems younger and younger people tend to set the laws of life in motion. Now to have Chairwalker follow-up with a post: "Humanity as we know it will cease to exist! We may be better off that way..." and my demagogical speech will be perfect.
El Vi-Riachi
05-03-2005, 13:46
That is just stupid. Immaturity of...bah what's the use. No point fighting whats happening to the community, might as well just accept it and have all the 18+ year olds be the bitches of the 7 year olds. I always thought growing up would let me be able to dictate the rules, but as I get older it seems younger and younger people tend to set the laws of life in motion. Now to have Chairwalker follow-up with a post: "Humanity as we know it will cease to exist! We may be better off that way..." and my demagogical speech will be perfect.
this is just something us older guys have to accept, me i let them have thier paddy and ignore them, i to thought as i got older that i would be able to do the same but i cam to realise that kids that act like that are not worth the effort or your time so just leave them to it, if they keep tking you it = a kick and everyone can get on playing this wonderful mod
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