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Mkay, so I was playing this evening, and I'm a mandalorian using the EE3 sniper. I see this nub Jedi just walking at me, so I run up and charge him scoped. My intent is to snipe him while he's nudged, therefore killing him. But instead I'm met with a very surprising fact. Nudge decided not to work so instead it D3'd right back into my head.
I think nudge was removed.
Why did it go bye-bye ;_;
Vox Clamantis
28-09-2008, 09:53
Mkay, so I was playing this evening, and I'm a mandalorian using the EE3 sniper. I see this nub Jedi just walking at me, so I run up and charge him scoped. My intent is to snipe him while he's nudged, therefore killing him. But instead I'm met with a very surprising fact. Nudge decided not to work so instead it D3'd right back into my head.
That must have been epic lulz for everyone else on the server. :p
~Gabriel
Jack of Blades
28-09-2008, 13:39
Oh yes i just love the current 1mm rapid fire deflect back in you.LOVE IT!(sarcasm)
Gunners already f*** jedi/sith atm, im glad nudge was removed, and hope it stays that way.
Gunners already f*** jedi/sith atm, im glad nudge was removed, and hope it stays that way.
Have you ever played gunner? I don't think so. If gunner doesn't have nade (or have but miss with it) and face deflect 3 jedi, he's totally doomed without nudge. Even if he manage to shot jedi down, he ends with nearly no hp due to deflect. With nudge he have at least chance that he'll kill jedi, before jedi realise what's happening and swing.
EDIT:
btw: it isn't removed. It just doesn't work for blasters, due to new deflecting anim. Still works fine for kicks and slaps.
didn't i allrdy explain this to you Supa and alot of other people ?
Nudge was not removed at all its there go connect to a server and go run up to an enemy your saber will nudge away (can't nudge off friendlies)
However it was made so that you play the deflect animation while nudging IF you get shot.
So conclusion you can no longer run into a jedi and shoot to do hp dmg.
P.S Please note nudge is not there as a means to make face hugging not possible but a way to add more complexity to the saber system.
Wow, ruin a gunners fun by taking out a feature that makes sense... I don't get how it's such a handicap for saberists. You get an instaswing from the nudge.
Wow, ruin a gunners fun by taking out a feature that makes sense... I don't get how it's such a handicap for saberists. .
Can you get someone to slap you please!
Makes sense ? Ok so if run into a knife it doesn't hurt right ? i don't get a big open wound with blood coming out of it ? im fine and dandy.
Then you have rub damage like in base and JA+ for when someone DOES try to nudge you. :p
GRIMMAH!!
28-09-2008, 21:24
Nudge was not removed at all its there go connect to a server and go run up to an enemy your saber will nudge away (can't nudge off friendlies)
However it was made so that you play the deflect animation while nudging IF you get shot.
So conclusion you can no longer run into a jedi and shoot to do hp dmg.
so you're saying nudge exists, it just doesn't do anything anymore?
then what's the point of having it exist! :|
Because it still plays a big part in duels, just the gunner vs saber element of nudge has gone.
so you're saying nudge exists, it just doesn't do anything anymore?
then what's the point of having it exist! :|
P.S Please note nudge is not there as a means to make face hugging not possible but a way to add more complexity to the saber system.
Thats important :)
Nudge was and is intentionally added to make the saber system better not for anti face huggingness.
Man, I was a deka tonight, and I walked right into a Jedi trying to deflect-hoor me, and all I got was a fatal blue hit.
A large machine...walks into you...you don't even flinch...
I loved nudge so much, why must everything I love be taken from me?
;_______;
well currently, all the nudge does is for gunner is:
it might cancel the jedis slash.
but usually, it'll give a quick nudge slash.
yay an advantage to teh jedi :p
Golden Mando Bro
29-09-2008, 12:08
Its true though facing a deflect 3 jedi without a knockover weapon is extremely difficult, to impossible.
Gunman121
29-09-2008, 13:05
I personally wish nudge was left in, it was a way for gunners to run into the sith and be able to cause DMG. Now with blue being at it's default speed, deflect 3 and blue makes it much harder to kill.
Mashirafen
29-09-2008, 21:03
Doesn't shooting at the jedi's feet stop him from deflecting the shot back at you?
Jack of Blades
29-09-2008, 21:05
Perhaps my accuracy wasnt that good but i tried and still got deflect shot.
^Duoshot.
30-09-2008, 03:45
Um...wth is nudge? XD
Um...wth is nudge? XD
Nudge is the name for a state the saber is in when it is touching an opponent (non friendly) player to which the lightsaber makes body contact with the person thus going playing into an animation that people refer to as a nudge.
In short grab a lightsaber walk up to someone on the opposite team and your lightsaber bounces off them slightly this is the nudge ( Do not mix it up for when you swing at them) it should be idle or blocking state. Alltho it is possible to nudge your swing mid swing for some more advanced sabering tech's.
Golden Mando Bro
30-09-2008, 04:10
um..... k.
plz2explain facehuggingness
Basically they're trying to say it's unrealistic when you go to facehug a Sith who has a lightsaber that can split you in two in seconds.
^Duoshot.
04-10-2008, 00:40
Yea...so run away.
prilladog
04-10-2008, 04:12
And get pushed?
TBH I think if you get D3 you should be limited to either pull 2 or push 2.
And get pushed?
TBH I think if you get D3 you should be limited to either pull 2 or push 2.
That will just encourage them to be more deflect whores (as in the people that get it deflect more) and make gunners just run 24/7 around them and your only method of really killing someone would be to hold block and get shot which "some" people have learnt not shooting jedi = not getting shots deflected back into my face.
prilladog
04-10-2008, 19:37
If they run around you you could pull all of there weapons with level 2...
It's been proven. I can't kill a D3 saberist without clone/arc. Clone can just blob them down and arc takes away all their FP so they have to run and waste more of it. >:
Tallfire
04-10-2008, 19:48
I think that the idea might have been to surprise the saberist, knock his saber away, then blast him away. I liked that. It didn't seem to be that much of an option though. Since it involves running, getting close to the sword (which added more to the game) and the new animations look awkward. Would be nice if it stayed in a certain stance after blocking or where you have to be blocking to see it. Reminded me of another idea I thought of, making where if you swing and not hold ATTACK then it gets stuck in a certain position, you could stab someone but someone could get past your block. Yeah, too hard to do but it sounds nice. I like my immagination.
If they run around you you could pull all of there weapons with level 2...
So your only defense to a running gunner would be to pull a weapon making you vulnerable on a fast moving target thats shooting at you ?
It is allso forcing you spend the points on pull 2 as a defense with deflect 3
TheLOLipop
05-10-2008, 16:03
I sometimes use kick agaisnt them but usually it ends like this:
*sees a D3 saberist*
LOLipop: Ima pwn ur ass with da melee bish!
*tries to kick da sberist but he goes round me and slashes*
LOLipop: omfg
Nab: HAHA U GOT PWND
Jack of Blades
05-10-2008, 18:47
WHo da hell had the idea that a kick does less dammage than a punch?Raven are ****en nuts.
There just needs to be an exception with deflect 3 and nudge. It's nearly impossible to kill a really defensive deflect 3 Jedi with anything short of blobs are nades. At least when nudge did damage it would also take their FP as well. Gave a 1up and now they can just fast blue if you do try and facehug.
Random thought: Make deflect 3 act like deflect 1 when <50FP?
Random thought: Make deflect 3 act like deflect 1 when <50FP?
This is a great idea, I approve immensely.
Random thought: Make deflect 3 act like deflect 1 when <50FP?
If anything stagger it.
So <50 D2 then <25 D1 that way its more balanced considering your going to pay 16 pts for the ability.
Golden Mando Bro
07-10-2008, 03:31
9/10 Orcs agree, <50 idea is win. I'm Barorc OBonekiller and I approve this message
That idea is made of win!
That must have been epic lulz for everyone else on the server. :pl
Totally agree. Btw happened to me too.
Vars idea is ftw.
I hate dealing with those d3ers, this would help even it up a bit.
Uh... shouldn't you be trying to stay away from a Jedi, not run into his face?
prilladog
08-10-2008, 14:25
I agree with this idea.
Uh... shouldn't you be trying to stay away from a Jedi, not run into his face?
Yea, run like a panzy and hope he doesn't have push or pull.
never seen any d3(2) without push or pull.
same thing happens to me, too supa lol.
a blob or a nade or a fp killer(arc pistols, godcaster)
or you need to run around the sith to hope he fails.
varl, you're idea is brilliant.
Fien now we have to convince a dev to put it in :P
TheLOLipop
09-10-2008, 20:03
KESHIRE I KNOW WHERE YOU LIVE, IMA KILL j00 IF THIS IDEA DOSENT GET IMPLENTED!*pwease :)*
I thought Keshire had nothing to do with MB2 anymore...?
We need more nerf to jedi/sith? o_0
I haven't played RC3P2 much but aren't gunners already > jedi / sith?
prilladog
10-10-2008, 02:26
Yes they are.
Depends on how well the J/S user is tbh, but yeah 70% gunners win imo.
Epic lies. I can still beat a lot gunners in a 1on1.. <_<'' I'm sure a lot others can do the same.
Mashirafen
10-10-2008, 08:18
Why is this still in the Bugs section?
TheLOLipop
10-10-2008, 16:43
Good question..
/agree
Jango-Shade
11-10-2008, 08:54
I vote for moving this to community discussion, I think nudges kick out was a good thing. It is now much more fun to play vs d3 jedi :) There must be some challenge dudes.
The fun is being able to do practically nothing against the d3 jedi?
Well d3 might be a problem :P I was just asking.
Thing is, since attack 3 blue no longer does any good damage, everyone has to use yellow. So basically an option for attack has been removed.
Imo when attacking with yellow the gunner has a 70% chance of winning.
This is why people go d3, its currently the only way to get good results.
Well d3 might be a problem :P I was just asking.
Thing is, since attack 3 blue no longer does any good damage, everyone has to use yellow. So basically an option for attack has been removed.
Imo when attacking with yellow the gunner has a 70% chance of winning.
This is why people go d3, its currently the only way to get good results.
Nope, not at all. Blue is still very good versus gunners, if not better as you don't have to invest another 12 points to get it. I think someone just fails.
You can do wonders with attack 1 now. It's a great stance against both gunners and saberists and you really don't need d3 to make it effective.
Nope, not at all. Blue is still very good versus gunners, if not better as you don't have to invest another 12 points to get it. I think someone just fails.
Oh shut your flame and read.
Oh shut your flame and read.
I did, you pretty much said blue was useless. This is obviously lies, as alot of people still complain about it being overpowered.
Typical Jedi bias ftl.
I did, you pretty much said blue was useless. This is obviously lies, as alot of people still complain about it being overpowered.
Typical Jedi bias ftl.
Its not useless but its not as useful as B19 or RC1(atk 3)
prilladog
11-10-2008, 21:05
The fun is being able to do practically nothing against the d3 jedi?
Agreed.
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