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Hawk
15-09-2008, 21:47
Gamespot and IGN I think have their reviews out for it.

I must say, the Wii version looks and sounds like utter crap. The graphics look fit for an n64. And the sound on it is supposedly compressed beyond belief. The 360 and PS3 look and sound better but still are reported to have lots of annoying bugs.

GG Lucasarts, you fail.

ninja burger
15-09-2008, 21:48
I'll be trying it tomorrow, I'll post what I think of it then. :)

Kazi
15-09-2008, 22:45
I reserved the Wii version...is it so bad that I need to cancel the reservation?

EDIT: After reading reviews, I don't think I need to spend $50 on it. I'll be renting it from Blockbuster for $7, and I'll probably still finish it before it's due back.

Now I'm disappointed.

Pilo T
15-09-2008, 23:27
disappointed? you mean you didn't know it was going to suck? I've been saying it for a long, LONG time now. :rolleyes:

Renek
15-09-2008, 23:29
disappointed? you mean you didn't know it was going to suck? I've been saying it for a long, LONG time now. :rolleyes:

http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/xbox360/starwarstheforceunleashed

Not the best, but hardly sucky. ;)

Assassin
15-09-2008, 23:32
disappointed? you mean you didn't know it was going to suck? I've been saying it for a long, LONG time now. :rolleyes:

Ditto.


Anyway, the demo made the game feel like a rental. So maybe one day when I decide to go down and finally rent MGS4 I might get TFu as well.

Hawk
15-09-2008, 23:47
disappointed? you mean you didn't know it was going to suck? I've been saying it for a long, LONG time now. :rolleyes:

I expected the story to suck, but not the graphics and sound.

UnsungHero
15-09-2008, 23:54
http://wii.ign.com/dor/objects/885367/star-wars-the-force-unleashed/images/star-wars-the-force-unleashed-20080702023246629.html
http://wii.ign.com/dor/objects/885367/star-wars-the-force-unleashed/images/star-wars-the-force-unleashed-20080702024824160.html
Looks pretty good for a wii game to me <_<

Azuvector
16-09-2008, 00:03
http://wii.ign.com/dor/objects/885367/star-wars-the-force-unleashed/images/star-wars-the-force-unleashed-20080702023246629.html
http://wii.ign.com/dor/objects/885367/star-wars-the-force-unleashed/images/star-wars-the-force-unleashed-20080702024824160.html
Looks pretty good for a wii game to me <_<

Indeed. If the best criticism you can come up with for a Wii game is it looks and sounds bad(Compared with other platforms.), I'm still eagerly awaiting my copy. :P
Even the complaints of the game being short don't matter much to me. Duel mode ftw?

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/unions/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26572110&union_id=3157
...although I am disappointed that they didn't include CPU opponents for dueling.

Pilo T
16-09-2008, 00:09
http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/xbox360/starwarstheforceunleashed

Not the best, but hardly sucky. ;)

I just saw the ending. I've seen reviews. I've seen gameplay videos. It's sucky.:rolleyes:

SpongerobertoSquarepantalones
16-09-2008, 00:14
As a Star Wars video game, The Force Unleashed just takes too many missteps to be a masterpiece. But as Star Wars canon, The Force Unleashed does very little wrong.

I literally spit out my drink all over my monitor reading that

Pilo T
16-09-2008, 00:16
I wasn't drinking anything, so I just spit all over my monitor.

Kazi
16-09-2008, 00:21
You mean you didn't know it was going to suck?

I'm disappointed at how apparently bad the Wiimote saber is.

That's the only reason I wanted the game, by the way....

Abe
16-09-2008, 01:13
I find the 360 version pretty kickass. Not the best game, but still loads of fun. (:

ninja burger
16-09-2008, 03:13
well i just played it, even though it's not out til tomorrow here. (connections at gaming hubs ftw!)

it was pretty fun tbh. i enjoyed throwing people around :)
finding bonus stuff was kinda fun too, but they were easy to find.

Wookiee[Qk]
16-09-2008, 03:47
I found the game to be really fun. Yes, it may not fit in with the Star Wars saga very well, but the gameplay was random and new each time. Each time I played, I found new cool things. I loved the demo and have played it like 8 times. Each time has been fun. :D

ZeroT
16-09-2008, 04:39
All versions seemed to have gotten too low of a mark.

Seems a bit negative biased to me. 6.5 replay value yet you do nothing except talk about hundreds of collectables, plus two separate endings, and you'd have to play through a few times to try out all the different customization options?

Pilo T
16-09-2008, 04:51
The endings both suck, and the collectables are supposedly wicked easy to find and rather boring.

Assassin
16-09-2008, 04:56
The endings both suck, and the collectables are supposedly wicked easy to find and rather boring.

Not the point. Since when was running around game worlds looking for hidden items fun for anyone?

It's still technically replayable.

Pilo T
16-09-2008, 04:59
Replayability is judged by the desire to replay.

Renek
16-09-2008, 05:20
Replayability is judged by the desire to replay.
:rolleyes:
We get it, you hate the game. More fun for the rest of us, I guess.

savingpvtgeorge36
16-09-2008, 05:26
Replayability is judged by the desire to replay.


Brilliant!

AlphaFA
16-09-2008, 05:35
They need another Jedi Power Battles, then, and only then it will be fun to play a Jedi Action game.

Pilo T
16-09-2008, 05:38
:rolleyes:
We get it, you hate the game. More fun for the rest of us, I guess.

Haha, the response you quoted has NOTHING to do with the game. Some people are so easily offended.:rolleyes:

Renek
16-09-2008, 05:41
Haha, the response you quoted has NOTHING to do with the game. Some people are so easily offended.:rolleyes:

Hehe, I don't own the game, nor am I going to buy it. But it's kinda annoying how cynical your posts have been in this thread. And we both know what you were implying with that post ;)

Pilo T
16-09-2008, 05:52
No, I seriously was not implying anything. Learn to read and see how my post relates directly to Assassin's. :rolleyes:

I guess you haven't seen many of my posts on the subject of The Force Unleashed, but I'm a bit direct in how much it sucks. There's no reason for me to subtly imply anything.

Renek
16-09-2008, 07:20
Well, okay, I admit I rarely visit the OT forums here. I don't think it's so bad, but everyone is entitled to their own opinion of course.

Deadpool
16-09-2008, 12:31
All versions seemed to have gotten too low of a mark.

Seems a bit negative biased to me. 6.5 replay value yet you do nothing except talk about hundreds of collectables, plus two separate endings, and you'd have to play through a few times to try out all the different customization options?


Pogeyman Blu has got liek hundruds of colectibals n pogeyman to collect, in eny order u wants. Pluss u can get eny 1 of THREE starturs (gras, fiur and watur!) N sinse u can onli complet it witf 6 pogeyman in ur teem, n there liek 151 monsturs u got liek 25 differunt combinatons 2 beet t3h leet gaylords with. :D

Who played Pokemon Blue through more than once? :P
Whoever got every crackdown orb was ghey! :O

P.S. Wasn't mocking your spelling. I just love to talk like a retard whenever pogeyman enters the conversation. :P

DaveGrohl
16-09-2008, 12:36
I played it last week, full version (Mates brother reviews games and gets them early)

Heres my review:

This game is boring as ****. Its a God of War rip off minus the gore and limbs flying off.

The main character is a pansy and too nice from the start.

The levels look amazing but feel really long due to repeatitive game play.

Its boring.

Assassin
16-09-2008, 13:45
Pogeyman Blu has got liek hundruds of colectibals n pogeyman to collect, in eny order u wants. Pluss u can get eny 1 of THREE starturs (gras, fiur and watur!) N sinse u can onli complet it witf 6 pogeyman in ur teem, n there liek 151 monsturs u got liek 25 differunt combinatons 2 beet t3h leet gaylords with. :D

Who played Pokemon Blue through more than once? :P
Whoever got every crackdown orb was ghey! :O

P.S. Wasn't mocking your spelling. I just love to talk like a retard whenever pogeyman enters the conversation. :P

Well that's a special case. They released a new pokemon game every bloody year since that's been practically the same, there's no reason to replay the old ones.

Deadpool
16-09-2008, 13:55
Well that's a special case. They released a new pokemon game every bloody year since that's been practically the same, there's no reason to replay the old ones.

They release a new Pokemon game every new handheld console actually.

Gameboy - Blue, Red, Yellow (Green) in Japan
Gameboy Colour - Gold, Silver, Crystal
Gameboy Advance - Ruby, Saphire, Emerald
Dank **** - Pearl, Diamond

Slightly different in that you have to spend another £120 on the new console + game if you plan on waiting a few years for the sequel in order to "replay" the game. Much easier to just play the real, original game again, which nobody does, because "all the collectibles can't amount to **** when the gameplay is identical," (like with TFU.)

Only way in which you were remotely close to a year between releases is if you take into account that the Red and Blue releases in the US and Europe were in fact remakes of Green and Red in Japan (which were released yonks before Red and Blue.)

Yellow, Crystal, Emerald are all ****ty remakes to cash in moar and its not like you even need em to "capture and maim them all." No serious person buys them instead of just replaying the old one and catching pikachu in the bloody forest.
Yellow: "OMFG! Pikachu is stalking me!"
Crystal: "OMFG! I get a top down view of a female sprite... SCORE!"
Emerald - "Yo! I'ma green sprite now! HAHA!"
Remake of the DS Games: "Woot! I'm apparently, called Platinum, which is much less effeminate that a diamond or a pearl."

SpongerobertoSquarepantalones
16-09-2008, 13:59
... and you know this?

Deadpool
16-09-2008, 14:02
I have a little brother who collects them... all, plus I collected them up until Gold (which I got from the USA, months before anybody in the UK.) Gold was great, but with nobody to battle or trade with it got lame quicker. 6 months later, Pogeyman was dead.

yambond
16-09-2008, 14:07
Lucas Farts

ps: ****ing pokemon hijack

Deadpool
16-09-2008, 14:11
Lucas Farts

ps: ****ing pokemon hijack

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u290/Krystal-Tears/Mukips%20and%20Shoop%20Da%20Whoop/So%20I%20Herd/Mudkips1.gif

Assassin
16-09-2008, 14:32
They release a new Pokemon game every new handheld console actually.

Gameboy - Blue, Red, Yellow (Green) in Japan
Gameboy Colour - Gold, Silver, Crystal
Gameboy Advance - Ruby, Saphire, Emerald
Dank **** - Pearl, Diamond



That's 12 games, not 4.

Sure, they're practically the same but the point is rather than play Blue twice you'd play Blue and then Red or whatever.

ninja burger
17-09-2008, 04:24
So I just played this game (rented) in it's near entirety, and I honestly like it, I don't see a lot wrong with the game... maybe its just cause I never get bored of smashing people into things and punting jawas. That's probably just me...

Story was alright. Force powers were alright... I still don't agree with the star destroyed thing though.

I do agree, however, that there needs to be dismemberment... :)

savingpvtgeorge36
17-09-2008, 04:29
I agree they need a g_realisticsabercombat 4 command in that game.

Ive begun playing it a bit and I actually enjoy it. I think the physics engine is excellent, the controls for the wii are fairly good minus the camera work, and i enjoy doing different force combos.

AgentX
17-09-2008, 06:13
Just played F.U.

****ING SICK GAME.

The reviews make it seem like ****, but damn man this game has a load of plot twists. tbh, this is now one of my favorite games. Its just down to earth (or whatever ****in planet their on at the time) the character development is spectacular, not topping kotor of course but hey this is a completely different type of game, and the fact that they included such development is astonishing.

I purchased it on Wii btw, I took the graphical sacrifice for the fun gaming experience, and it ****ing paid off.

But honestly, for the time this game took to MAKE it should have been longer, however as far as the wii version goes..

10/10
And Starkiller is the ****in ****ttttttttttttt.

Xadus
17-09-2008, 06:17
Lol AgentX. I feel the same way. I got it for the 360, and in all honesty, it's one of the best games I've played. The story is amazing, graphics are amazing, sound/music are really good, AI is smart and challenging, the gameplay is ok, and the new characters are amazing. I haven't beaten the game yet, but I plan on beating it tomorrow when I get home from school. So far, it's a really fun game. I still love punting Jawas/Uganauts. :D

Russian_Spy_Porque
17-09-2008, 06:27
Anyway, the demo made the game feel like a rental. So maybe one day when I decide to go down and finally rent MGS4 I might get TFu as well.

Don't be dissing MGS4 boy! The online component of it pwns life itself!

Pilo T
17-09-2008, 06:52
The story is amazing

I lol'd

FrenchFry
17-09-2008, 07:10
I lol'd

IMO the story was actually pretty good. So was everything about the game actually, I thoroughly enjoyed myself.

Pilo T
17-09-2008, 07:18
IMO the story was actually pretty good.

Haha. It almost sounds like you're serious.

SpongerobertoSquarepantalones
17-09-2008, 08:19
...it's one of the best games I've played. ...I plan on beating it tomorrow...
I lol'd

Metaguardian
17-09-2008, 09:19
The story wasn't too bad, but only if you can distance yourself from the rest of Star Wars canon/EU and the numerous inconsistencies/plot holes.

Colt
17-09-2008, 11:55
I've rented it, and so far it's beyond any hope I had. It has a nice story, it's challenging to the point of being fun, but doesn't step beyond that into the realm of annoyance. I've died quite a few times so the worries I had heard of it being a simple, easy force spam fest aren't true. I've also used my saber quite a bit, and while it's not THAT complex of a system, it is nicely done.

Ultimately I highly recomend playing this. I don't support BUYING games, since I find it a waste of money. But whether you choose to buy or rent, it's a good game to play, and deffinently worth whatever money you put into it.

cloudstrife
17-09-2008, 12:04
Man... if the character looked like his SC4 counterpart, it would have been awesome

I prefer this:http://www.videogamesblogger.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/darth-vaders-secret-apprentice-in-soul-calibur-4.jpg

Over this: http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2008/056/933155_20080227_screen004.jpg

Colt
17-09-2008, 12:07
People are too concerned with visuals, I thought the game looked perfectly fine.

yambond
17-09-2008, 12:08
Man... if the character looked like his SC4 counterpart, it would have been awesome

I prefer this:http://www.videogamesblogger.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/darth-vaders-secret-apprentice-in-soul-calibur-4.jpg

Over this: http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2008/056/933155_20080227_screen004.jpg


if lucas arts didnt make Star wars games, the games would be awesome.

Vox Clamantis
17-09-2008, 13:10
The story wasn't too bad, but only if you can distance yourself from the rest of Star Wars canon/EU and the numerous inconsistencies/plot holes.

The EU has mostly managed to forget about stupid crap that became canon during the YV war. I'm sure it can weather another round of lame ideas from the game designers.

~Gabriel

Colt
17-09-2008, 13:50
Can someone please inform me what in the game ruins canon so much? I mean really, I've gotten to the Bail part in the game, and so far I haven't noticed one thing that contradicts canon. The closest to it would be the apprentice himself, but then EU never said Vader never had one, it didn't specify, so that doesn't contradict canon. All this "This game rapes canon" stuff is really annoying, so someone please explain.

Hawk
17-09-2008, 16:17
Vader starts the rebellion. Nuff' said.

Pilo T
17-09-2008, 16:21
Can someone please inform me what in the game ruins canon so much? I mean really, I've gotten to the Bail part in the game, and so far I haven't noticed one thing that contradicts canon. The closest to it would be the apprentice himself, but then EU never said Vader never had one, it didn't specify, so that doesn't contradict canon. All this "This game rapes canon" stuff is really annoying, so someone please explain.

Are you serious? There's never any mention of him in the movies. He's not a very secret apprentice if he starts the rebellion.

Not only that but he's more powerful than Vader and the Emperor; he brought down a Star Destroyer by himself, and the rebllion thing.

There's already a story about how the rebellion was formed, and there's no Darth Vader's Secret Apprentice in there.

For me it's less of the holes that it forms that make the story fail, and more of the fact that it's just a sucky story that doesn't FIT canon... as in it stands out like a sore thumb more so than Ep 2 and 3.

Colt
17-09-2008, 18:22
Are you serious? There's never any mention of him in the movies. He's not a very secret apprentice if he starts the rebellion.
Just because there isn't any mention of him doesn't mean he couldn't have existed. They never went "Vader never had a secret apprentice" in the movies either, leaving it open. Nowhere has it ever specified Vader didn't take on an apprentice, not one canon source. So how can they break canon if it wasn't ever canon?


Not only that but he's more powerful than Vader and the Emperor; he brought down a Star Destroyer by himself, and the rebllion thing.
So far in the game he has yet to bring down an ISD, nor shown himself to be stronger then Vader or Palpy. Thus far I've only seen his ass get kicked by Vader.


There's already a story about how the rebellion was formed, and there's no Darth Vader's Secret Apprentice in there.
Actually, so far the whole Apprentice thing fits in with the formation of the Rebellion. The rebellion started by a group of senators and whatnot getting together and organising the hundreds of scattered rebel sects throughout the galaxy. In the game the apprentice basicly nudges those senators to do that, so it doesn't break canon it merely expands on it.


For me it's less of the holes that it forms that make the story fail, and more of the fact that it's just a sucky story that doesn't FIT canon... as in it stands out like a sore thumb more so than Ep 2 and 3.

I'm not sure what you want in a game, to be honest. I mean you obviously can't ever be satisfied with anything. I mean granted I haven't beaten the game yet, so all of what you've said may happen, but really. So far not one of those things breaks canon. So I still have yet to hear how this game ruins canon.

Daven Coyle
17-09-2008, 18:36
if the game is fun and the story by itself is good **** whats canon and whats not its a game based off of a fictional universe so what if it doesn't fit perfectly... course i havent played it yet so i havent seen it all but if its fun its fun

Vox Clamantis
17-09-2008, 18:40
if the game is fun and the story by itself is good **** whats canon and whats not its a game based off of a fictional universe so what if it doesn't fit perfectly... course i havent played it yet so i havent seen it all but if its fun its fun

Classic narcissism. "This is unimportant to me, therefore its unimportance is a universal constant."

:rolleyes:

To people who care, it matters. To people who don't care, it doesn't matter. Life is blissfully subjective, non?

~Gabriel

Abe
17-09-2008, 18:42
but I'm a bit direct in how much it sucks.
You haven't even played it.

Rider on the Storm
17-09-2008, 18:44
Vader starts the rebellion. Nuff' said.

He started it in ep3...Rebellion would not be needed if there was no Vader... :D

Daven Coyle
17-09-2008, 18:55
Classic narcissism. "This is unimportant to me, therefore its unimportance is a universal constant."

:rolleyes:

To people who care, it matters. To people who don't care, it doesn't matter. Life is blissfully subjective, non?

~Gabriel

Yes, I'm a narcissist because i fail to understand how discrepancies in a fictional story would stop people from playing a video game... Simply because he doesn't like where the story goes doesn't mean the game in it's totality is crap.

Do they stretch the canon to make the game more fun, ya but so does mb2. Sometimes gameplay and the enjoyability of the game are more important than adhering strictly to the canon. That's part of the game making process, you do your best to work within the confines you are giving while still making the game fun and worth while.

Pilo T
17-09-2008, 19:47
Just because there isn't any mention of him doesn't mean he couldn't have existed. They never went "Vader never had a secret apprentice" in the movies either, leaving it open. Nowhere has it ever specified Vader didn't take on an apprentice, not one canon source. So how can they break canon if it wasn't ever canon?
But he got all the senators together, got the idea rolling, and even saved all of their lives. So he does all this and then the rebellion completely forgets about him only a few years later? I find that hard to believe. In this story, he IS the rebellion.


So far in the game he has yet to bring down an ISD, nor shown himself to be stronger then Vader or Palpy. Thus far I've only seen his ass get kicked by Vader.
Come back when you've beaten the game.


Actually, so far the whole Apprentice thing fits in with the formation of the Rebellion. The rebellion started by a group of senators and whatnot getting together and organising the hundreds of scattered rebel sects throughout the galaxy. In the game the apprentice basicly nudges those senators to do that, so it doesn't break canon it merely expands on it.
I don't remember the actual story of how the rebellion was supposedly formed; it's been a while, but I'm pretty sure it was pretty thoroughly done out as the originator's ideas/plans, and it was created on Corellia with the Emperor and Vader unknowing. Again, I could be remembering it completely wrong, but ifthere's truth to anything I just said, that is completely shattered by TFU's less-than-mediocre story, which you'll see as you complete the game.


Yes, I'm a narcissist because i fail to understand how discrepancies in a fictional story would stop people from playing a video game... Simply because he doesn't like where the story goes doesn't mean the game in it's totality is crap.

Do they stretch the canon to make the game more fun, ya but so does mb2. Sometimes gameplay and the enjoyability of the game are more important than adhering strictly to the canon. That's part of the game making process, you do your best to work within the confines you are giving while still making the game fun and worth while.

wtf? lol. Gab was right in what he said.

And I lol'd at comparing it to MB2. That's entirely different. MB2 is a multiplayer team based mod to an old, old game. TFU is a single player, STORY DRIVEN game. A STORY DRIVEN GAME THAT TRAMPLES EXISTING STORY.

Abe
17-09-2008, 20:06
Pilo, admit it, you just like to whine. Just like you did in D3 thread.

SpongerobertoSquarepantalones
17-09-2008, 20:09
Btw, I could be wrong here, but I thought the knowlege of who was part of the rebellion was largely secret? Doesn't quite seem to fit in with them all being captured and all.

Pilo T
17-09-2008, 20:09
trust me, I'm not whining. I was thoroughly entertained by watching the cinematics on YouTube. I will admit I'm confused as to why people here are fooling themselves the story doesn't suck. The gameplay I can't say sucks because I haven't personally tried it, and that would be terribly ignorant on my part. Reviews have said it's choppy and games like Psy Ops or whatever have done it better, but everyone has different opinions there. The story is just to laughable for me to comprehend (m)any people thinking it's good.

Like I said, though, it was entertaining. I laughed almost as much as I did when I watched Stomp the Yard, but TFU was much cheesier.


Btw, I could be wrong here, but I thought the knowlege of who was part of the rebellion was largely secret?
EDIT: No, when Princess Leia claims innocence to Vader in ANH, she's doing it for the lulz.

DaveGrohl
17-09-2008, 20:24
TFU is a boring boring game. Its God of War with star wars graphics. Except God of War was 10x better than this game.

The combat is repeatative and just the same old button mashing over and over.
The story is boring.
The main character, for a man who was raised by Darth Vader acts like a nice guy. I was expecting him to be maul like.

The only good thing about this game is that the levels look really really nice. But thats spoiled due to repeatative gameplay that makes them feel 3x as long.

The camera is horrible too.

savingpvtgeorge36
17-09-2008, 20:58
The main character, for a man who was raised by Darth Vader acts like a nice guy. I was expecting him to be maul like.


A nice guy? lol

He choked more people in this game than vader ever did in the movies.

Pilo T
17-09-2008, 21:04
so? Killing people has no reflection of your personality. That's like saying anyone who's ever been in war is the biggest ******* ever.

EDIT: Good thing SeVv's banned. I can finally use the word "war" without worrying about a follow up 3 page post about how win Stephen Colbert and Al Gore are and the politics of Iraq.

Riles Lek
17-09-2008, 21:04
A nice guy? lol

He choked more people in this game than vader ever did in the movies.

.... you're taking the game seriously?

Colt
17-09-2008, 21:21
But he got all the senators together, got the idea rolling, and even saved all of their lives. So he does all this and then the rebellion completely forgets about him only a few years later? I find that hard to believe. In this story, he IS the rebellion.
Why should they mention him? He didn't make up the rebellion, he just nudged it along. He saved their lives? Who ****ing cares, HUNDREDS of people have died for the rebel leaders, what makes that one so special? Just because he wasn't mentioned doesn't mean he didn't exist. It's an entire galaxy, lots of things are left un-mentioned until someone comes along and mentions em. The Clone Commando series is a perfect example.



Come back when you've beating the game.
Will do



I don't remember the actual story of how the rebellion was supposedly formed; it's been a while, but I'm pretty sure it was pretty thoroughly done out as the originator's ideas/plans, and it was created on Corellia with the Emperor and Vader unknowing. Again, I could be remembering it completely wrong, but ifthere's truth to anything I just said, that is completely shattered by TFU's less-than-mediocre story, which you'll see as you complete the game.
As far as this goes, it allways seemed pretty obvious the empire knew WHO was leading the rebellion, they just didn't know WHERE they were. And what happened was there was hundreds of small rebel groups fighting the empire. And the senators Bail Organa, Mon Mothma, and Garm Bel Iblis rallied them all together and formed the Rebel Charter (Or something like that) to signify a united rebellion against the empire.

Nowhere does that contradict the apprentice doing what he did. All he did was nudge them forward, all TFU did was give a glimpse at what happened BEFORE the senators rallied together, it showed what the catalyst was for them to rally together, and why it took them 18 bloody years to do so. The apprentice was that catalyst, he pushed the senators forward. That doesn't break canon, not in the slightest.

savingpvtgeorge36
17-09-2008, 22:06
so? Killing people has no reflection of your personality. That's like saying anyone who's ever been in war is the biggest ******* ever.


By that logic you could argue that Hitler and Stalin were nice guys.


Nor did I say that killing people defines your personality, its the manner and circumstances in which it was done.

Dragoan
17-09-2008, 22:09
I have played the game, I must say, PS2 version beats out 360. I got both versions to see which was better.

anyway, I liked the story. I thought it did a great job at bridging together episodes 3 and 4.

Frost
17-09-2008, 22:15
so? Killing people has no reflection of your personality. That's like saying anyone who's ever been in war is the biggest ******* ever.

Colt
17-09-2008, 22:36
I'm at the ISD part, and while I do agree it's not realistic to SW, I can over-look it for one simple reason. It's a game. And any SW fan would know that this sequence was merely added to increase gameplay, and spice things up. So while the rest of the story remains accurate to canon, I can over-look this. Unfortunently it's pissing me off :@ I spend the entire time between waves just turning the bloody thing, let alone bringing it down.

Pilo T
17-09-2008, 23:29
Why should they mention him? He didn't make up the rebellion, he just nudged it along. He saved their lives? Who ****ing cares, HUNDREDS of people have died for the rebel leaders, what makes that one so special? Just because he wasn't mentioned doesn't mean he didn't exist. It's an entire galaxy, lots of things are left un-mentioned until someone comes along and mentions em. The Clone Commando series is a perfect example.



Will do



As far as this goes, it allways seemed pretty obvious the empire knew WHO was leading the rebellion, they just didn't know WHERE they were. And what happened was there was hundreds of small rebel groups fighting the empire. And the senators Bail Organa, Mon Mothma, and Garm Bel Iblis rallied them all together and formed the Rebel Charter (Or something like that) to signify a united rebellion against the empire.

Nowhere does that contradict the apprentice doing what he did. All he did was nudge them forward, all TFU did was give a glimpse at what happened BEFORE the senators rallied together, it showed what the catalyst was for them to rally together, and why it took them 18 bloody years to do so. The apprentice was that catalyst, he pushed the senators forward. That doesn't break canon, not in the slightest.

*sigh* you'll figure it out when you beat the game. Unless your IQ is double digit. In the meantime, I'll just /facepalm every time you post.


By that logic you could argue that Hitler and Stalin were nice guys.


Nor did I say that killing people defines your personality, its the manner and circumstances in which it was done.

They might have been. Evil, twisted maybe, but I don't know whether they were nice or not.

EDIT: oh, and you kind of did. Dave was commenting on his personality, you told him he was wrong because he killed people... how can you say you didn't say that?


Hilarious Image

You posted that in IRC. It's still ****ing hilarious.

Anderson
17-09-2008, 23:51
You haven't even played it.

Quoted for the epic truth!

UnsungHero
17-09-2008, 23:52
Pilo, admit it, you just like to whine. Just like you did in D3 thread.

Quoted for truth

Pilo T
18-09-2008, 00:00
Quoted for the epic truth!

how is that an epic truth? The only thing I've commented on is the story. Having seen all of the game's cinematics, I don't need to have played it. Epic fail on your part.:rolleyes:

Bobinator
18-09-2008, 00:32
Still undecided whether to get TFU or Mercs 2, Keep in mind that i've only got a PS2 atm. :|

WorldsLargestIpod
18-09-2008, 00:36
I haven't finished the game, but it's very enjoyable, my one problem with it is that force gripping objects into people is rather difficult to control, it seems sometimes i'll release an object and it get's sent flying in a completely opposite dirrection of where my cursor was pointed.

I don't really care that you're whacking your enemies with your lightsaber like it's a bat rather than a sword that can supposedly cut through any solid substance. The point of the game is a focus on FORCEPOWERS, not a lightsaber. If you want to fight like that you can play battlefront II, Moviebattles, Jedi Knight, or lego starwars. The focus on the force powers and the physics of total destruction is what makes the game unique and special.

Myth
18-09-2008, 00:39
Still undecided whether to get TFU or Mercs 2, Keep in mind that i've only got a PS2 atm. :|

Mercs 2 is garbage. It's like Just Cause on crack.


Anyway, I haven't played TFU, but from watching the cinematics..

I'm perfectly fine with the story. I think it's a bit ridiculous that you're going to try and bash the game's story, especially given its Lucas approved. I mean, there's no saying you can add in additional details to an existing storyline. We're filling in gaps here. There's a lot of space in between not only the movies, but the trilogy sets as well. There are no rules adhering to what can be done and what can't, with the exception of any recurring characters' deaths.

Pilo T likes to bitch in general, though. You really can't please him unless you stick to the same old ****. Change is impossible and blasphemous.

Pilo T
18-09-2008, 01:49
haha, I love you too Myth.

Frost
18-09-2008, 02:36
I had no problem with Starkiller being made the motivation for the rebels to officialize their faction and gather more members. Because that's what happened. No more, no less.

The Rebel Alliance already existed but in small scale and in an unnoficial status when Starkiller came along. All that he did was delivering them a logo and an old jedi master for their cause.

Btw, KOTOR games had main characters that were really powerful and you liked the story and yet, you see one really powerful character in the Prequel/Old Triology and you go haywire ? What happened to the hole Exile and the vergeance in the Force storyline ? Or is that one ok since he didn't had to fight Vader ?

Not to mention that this Vader is still getting used to the suit he was thrown in. Took him years to get it all together and to learn how to use his weakness to his advantage.

The kinda BS moments from the story were the hole flesh hologram technology droid and him having a ****ing Darth Maul program with him (!!!) without even having no almost no chance of knowing of him since he was a silent killer, he only showed himself in Episode 1, and I somehow doubt Proxy was there to record his fighting style.

Warad Mohar
18-09-2008, 02:49
The kinda BS moments from the story were the hole flesh hologram technology droid and him having a ****ing Darth Maul program with him (!!!) without even having no almost no chance of knowing of him since he was a silent killer, he only showed himself in Episode 1, and I somehow doubt Proxy was there to record his fighting style.


Playing Devil's Advocate here but considering the droid was given to Starkiller by Vader, who programmed all the personalities into said droid, probably heard a few stories about Maul from Palps, and there you go.

Hell, when he just magically turned into Maul, which I knew I was going to fight, was one of the rare awesome moments I had in the game, (second only to playing Stormtrooper Bowling with the DBZified Push move.)

The one thing I really, really hate about this game is the overabudance of QTEs, now, I understand the theory behind them, but they just take some of Ommph out of the game, I mean, I'd rather be the one crushing AT-ST's into the size of suitcases, myself, I want to do the moves, I want to choose to do either the crush move, or the slice into two move, or hell, do something completely different, not watching a cutscene play while I'm playing Simon.

And QTE's give me bad flashbacks of Indigo Prophecy, so....yeah....

Frost
18-09-2008, 03:07
Playing Devil's Advocate here but considering the droid was given to Starkiller by Vader, who programmed all the personalities into said droid, probably heard a few stories about Maul from Palps, and there you go.

How do you mimic his looks and styles if you never saw him fight ? I mean, Anakin had a glimpse of the Episode I duels but that doesn't let you make up a full set of moves, plus the fact that we was so small he would hardly remember the small details.

Anyway I digress. Maul, playing as Vader and some other stuff were included because of the initial ideas for this next gen game. At one time it was going to be a Darth Maul game and later on they considered having Vader as the main playable character.

Pilo T
18-09-2008, 03:10
They had two awesome ideas like that... and somehow we got THIS? Were they high? Had Vader been bringing down Star Destroyers and ****, that would just enhance the OT. Instead, there's confusion and irritation.

Frost
18-09-2008, 03:50
They had two awesome ideas like that... and somehow we got THIS? Were they high? Had Vader been bringing down Star Destroyers and ****, that would just enhance the OT. Instead, there's confusion and irritation.

Why would Vader bring down a Star Destroyer tho ? I somehow see Palpatine more capable of doing this instead of Vader. He might be the chosen one but it would Vader look superior to his master which would then makes us wonder why the hell doesn't he kill the old fart already.

Pilo T
18-09-2008, 03:55
A Maul or Vader game would have been a MUCH better idea. Maul better than Vader, I think, though he was more a martial artist, and less a force user... he's got more story to explore, though.

Frost
18-09-2008, 04:02
Maul wouldn't allow for the physics orgasm that they wanted to display tho. And already has some books with his story.

ninja burger
18-09-2008, 04:02
Vader was boring to play. (too slow)

Only good thing about vader was the first level. There's a part where wookies just constantly spawn (about 600 of them over a period of time) and you force whore them all over the place :p

me and my friend used that to get some achievements =P

savingpvtgeorge36
18-09-2008, 04:45
Why would Vader bring down a Star Destroyer tho ? I somehow see Palpatine more capable of doing this instead of Vader. He might be the chosen one but it would Vader look superior to his master which would then makes us wonder why the hell doesn't he kill the old fart already.


We'll lets be honest this isnt the first occurance of star destroyers being owned by the first. In the jedy academy books the academy students basically force push a fleet of SDs into a different sector.

Frost
18-09-2008, 04:51
We'll lets be honest this isnt the first occurance of star destroyers being owned by the first. In the jedy academy books the academy students basically force push a fleet of SDs into a different sector.

That is EU crap tho and it's even more feasible than a single guy doing it.

Pilo T
18-09-2008, 07:28
We'll lets be honest this isnt the first occurance of star destroyers being owned by the first. In the jedy academy books the academy students basically force push a fleet of SDs into a different sector.

Yeah, and that was a bunch of Jedi focusing together, and using an ancient Sith amplifier thing (Sith the species). And the guy who channeled most of that force was almost killed in the process.

Colt
18-09-2008, 08:04
Either way, you guys are looking too much into the power levels of the apprentice. Yeah he may be strong, but I don't think ANY SW fan would go "Oh yeah, he was stronger then Vader". They'd just accept his uberness comes from the gameplay style is all. While he is quite powerfull, he's still weaker then Vader.

I like what they did with the game, they explored a time period rarely ever touched, and didn't go the route of tacking on new stuff to the Clone Wars. They gave us something fresh, and new, that ties in very well to canon to make it feel like one fluid story. They couldn't have done this if they used Vader, or Palpy, who'd be the only uber forcers at the time. So they made a new one, no biggy.

Pilo you need to just accept that this is a game, and games are one of the worst sources for canon since you need to account for gameplay features. The story is canon, but some of the things in it aren't. Him pulling an ISD for example, it was simply a gameplay feature to make the game more fun, and shouldn't reflect on the story if you've got any sense at all.

Pilo T
18-09-2008, 08:06
You haven't beaten the game yet, have you?

he defeats Vader

Colt
18-09-2008, 09:31
You haven't beaten the game yet, have you?

he defeats Vader

That's not that hard of a feat, to be honest. I mean he's lost several times before now, he may be a badass but inside that suit, he aint all that powerfull. He lost like half his power when Obi diced n sliced, don't forget the force requires organic material, Vader's half machine.

Spoiler'd it so people wouldn't see what we were talkin bout.

Vox Clamantis
18-09-2008, 09:38
That's not that hard of a feat, to be honest. I mean he's lost several times before now, he may be a badass but inside that suit, he aint all that powerfull. He lost like half his power when Obi diced n sliced, don't forget the force requires organic material, Vader's half machine.

Spoiler'd it so people wouldn't see what we were talkin bout.

He got beaten by Obi-Wan...and that's it. Honestly, I don't see where you're coming from on this one. As a kid who grew up in the 1980s with Vader being the ultimate badass (he killed the Emperor, after all), I probably have a different view on things than people who grew up more recently, with all the BS they've come out with to change the story (games, books, the prequels, that sort of ****). To me, Vaders getting his ass handed to him by his own apprentice is just absurd.

~Gabriel

Colt
18-09-2008, 13:41
He got beaten by Obi-Wan...and that's it. Honestly, I don't see where you're coming from on this one. As a kid who grew up in the 1980s with Vader being the ultimate badass (he killed the Emperor, after all), I probably have a different view on things than people who grew up more recently, with all the BS they've come out with to change the story (games, books, the prequels, that sort of ****). To me, Vaders getting his ass handed to him by his own apprentice is just absurd.

~Gabriel

Actually Vaders gotten beaten several times, I can't give specifics since it's been a while since I read up on Vader, but I do know he's lost atleast a couple fights during the Empire's reign. And he only killed Palpy by surprise, Vader woulda never beaten Palpy in a fair fight, so that really doesn't give any credit to his badassness. Vader is a badass, and NOONE will dispute that. He's also incredibly powerfull, but after what Obi did to him he's not the most powerfull guy in the galaxy.

If anything, Luke far surpasses Vader in raw power. Some of the stunts he's pulled off are even better then anything the Apprentice has done. So yeah, it's not unreasonable that the Apprentice coulda become stronger then Vader.

Cid88
18-09-2008, 13:47
Actually Vaders gotten beaten several times, I can't give specifics since it's been a while since I read up on Vader, but I do know he's lost atleast a couple fights during the Empire's reign. And he only killed Palpy by surprise, Vader woulda never beaten Palpy in a fair fight, so that really doesn't give any credit to his badassness. Vader is a badass, and NOONE will dispute that. He's also incredibly powerfull, but after what Obi did to him he's not the most powerfull guy in the galaxy.

If anything, Luke far surpasses Vader in raw power. Some of the stunts he's pulled off are even better then anything the Apprentice has done. So yeah, it's not unreasonable that the Apprentice coulda become stronger then Vader.

He mostly gets beat by EU crap. And the EU is utter and total crap. Don't even try to deny it.

When I grew up, Vader was THE badass.

Vox Clamantis
18-09-2008, 16:59
When I grew up, Vader was THE badass.

Quoted for similar sentiment.

~Gabriel

Colt
18-09-2008, 17:01
EU may be crap, but like it or not it IS canon. It's not a fans place to pick and choose whats canon.

Also, just beat it and accidently took dark side ending, but then went and youtubed the light side ending. And the light side ending doesn't break canon at all. So yeah, this game follows canon on every aspect, except the little ISD stunt. Over all a good game, was deffinently worth the rental. Shame it has no replay value, though.

Pilo T
18-09-2008, 19:20
Quoted for similar sentiment.

~Gabriel
Same here.


EU may be crap, but like it or not it IS canon. It's not a fans place to pick and choose whats canon.
True, but we do get to lol at ****ty games/stories like this one, though, at the same time, I was kind of crying on the inside.



Also, just beat it and accidently took dark side ending, but then went and youtubed the light side ending. And the light side ending doesn't break canon at all. So yeah, this game follows canon on every aspect, except the little ISD stunt. Over all a good game, was deffinently worth the rental. Shame it has no replay value, though.
I'll have to recheck the EU for the original story regarding the creation of the rebellion cause I'm pretty sure this game breaks it. Might be hard to find, though, now that this **** is everywhere.

This game also doesn't fit in with the original trilogy. If this is supposed to bridge any sort of gap between Episode 3 and 4, it's a very old, rickety bridge. I don't plan on crossing it any time soon either.

Abe
18-09-2008, 20:23
Okay. We get it. You don't like the game.

Colt
18-09-2008, 22:31
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Alliance_to_Restore_the_Republic#Early_foundations

They added in TFU segments, but I noticed they didn't REMOVE anything. This clearly shows that TFU doesn't break the Rebel founding, it merely expands on it. These two combined actually explain things the game itself didn't. For example, why were Garm Bel Iblis and Mon Mothma there? The apprentice didn't get them, so how did Bail know them? He knew because they've been talking about rebellion for a while, and were finally pushed into open, armed rebellion by the apprentice. It all works quite wonderfully, and I applaude the game makers for making the story fit canon so well.

Anderson
18-09-2008, 22:35
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Alliance_to_Restore_the_Republic#Early_foundations

They added in TFU segments, but I noticed they didn't REMOVE anything. This clearly shows that TFU doesn't break the Rebel founding, it merely expands on it. These two combined actually explain things the game itself didn't. For example, why were Garm Bel Iblis and Mon Mothma there? The apprentice didn't get them, so how did Bail know them? He knew because they've been talking about rebellion for a while, and were finally pushed into open, armed rebellion by the apprentice. It all works quite wonderfully, and I applaude the game makers for making the story fit canon so well.

Play the game o.O
Starkiller actually saves Garm Bel Iblis from mandalorians in Cloud City that captured him, that's how they meet.

Vox Clamantis
19-09-2008, 06:45
If Vader and Emperor knew that Bail Organa was part of the Rebel Alliance, they never would have allowed Leia Organa to remain Senator. Not to mention which, Bail continued to live on Alderan. Not the move of a man hiding from the law.

TFU may not break continuity, but it certainly violates common sense with a bloody vengeance.

~Gabriel

Pilo T
19-09-2008, 07:14
Yeah, this isn't like the modern world. If the entire founders of the Rebel Alliance were there and ready to be killed by Vader and the Emperor... first of all, the Emperor does not operate within the bounds of red tape as in modern politics. He could do whatever the **** he wants. Second of all, why would they continue to be public figures knowing he's a Sith lord and that he wants them dead? As Gab said, it destroys the life out of common sense.

Colt
19-09-2008, 14:46
Play the game o.O
Starkiller actually saves Garm Bel Iblis from mandalorians in Cloud City that captured him, that's how they meet.

That wasn't Garm, that was General Kota :/

As for the Rebel thing, well it really doesn't break common sense if you think about it. So what if Bail stayed on Alderaan, Vader n Palpy might not have known. It's a big galaxy and he could be anywhere, it's also a big planet.

I mean people tend to make things seem small in sci-fi, when it really isn't. Even if they knew Bail was on Alderaan, it's a big planet. For simplicities sake we could say it's the size of earth. Now SW doesn't have fancy star trek life signs detectors, if Bail wanted to hide on Alderaan, the Empire would never find him.

So yeah, just because the empire knew who the leaders were doesn't mean they could just run out and find them willy nilly.

As for Leia, well there I agree. Palpy has hurt family members to get at someone before, no reason he wouldn't go after Leia. But I guess the arguement could be made that since she was a senator, and Palpy still had to play mr. nice guy to the senate, he didn't make a move until he disbanded the senate. If you watch EP4 the senate was disbanded soon after Leia was aprehanded.

But anyways, TFU really doesn't screw up canon at all, and it really doesn't mess with common sense either. Some things are amiss, but that's to be expected when you're adding new content to something as big and diverse as SW. Luckily they're small and insignificant.

AceVentura
19-09-2008, 15:40
Now SW doesn't have fancy star trek life signs detectorsI think you should watch ep 4 again.

savingpvtgeorge36
19-09-2008, 16:20
There were definately a couple point in the game where I really thought they screwed w/ the story, obviously the vader emperor fight was a little messed up, but the first mission on kashyyk its shows AT-ATs attacking the beach when AT-ATs werent really first used until the battle of hoth.

Myth
19-09-2008, 18:02
but the first mission on kashyyk its shows AT-ATs attacking the beach when AT-ATs werent really first used until the battle of hoth.

Says who?

Pilo T
19-09-2008, 18:09
That wasn't Garm, that was General Kota :/

As for the Rebel thing, well it really doesn't break common sense if you think about it. So what if Bail stayed on Alderaan, Vader n Palpy might not have known. It's a big galaxy and he could be anywhere, it's also a big planet.

I mean people tend to make things seem small in sci-fi, when it really isn't. Even if they knew Bail was on Alderaan, it's a big planet. For simplicities sake we could say it's the size of earth. Now SW doesn't have fancy star trek life signs detectors, if Bail wanted to hide on Alderaan, the Empire would never find him.

So yeah, just because the empire knew who the leaders were doesn't mean they could just run out and find them willy nilly.

As for Leia, well there I agree. Palpy has hurt family members to get at someone before, no reason he wouldn't go after Leia. But I guess the arguement could be made that since she was a senator, and Palpy still had to play mr. nice guy to the senate, he didn't make a move until he disbanded the senate. If you watch EP4 the senate was disbanded soon after Leia was aprehanded.

But anyways, TFU really doesn't screw up canon at all, and it really doesn't mess with common sense either. Some things are amiss, but that's to be expected when you're adding new content to something as big and diverse as SW. Luckily they're small and insignificant.

What a sad state of denial you're in... Well, if you enjoyed the game, then good for you. I've stated my opinion on it, there's no reason for me to further say anything against it since really all that would do is arbitrarily try to sabotage your enjoyment from it.

DaveGrohl
19-09-2008, 18:16
Wrong

AT-ATs first saw use at the Second Battle of Jabiim


but they started getting used very little as they were slowed down on muddy battle fields and that A5 and A6 juggernauts where prefered over them.

They were later used again during Battle of Orion IV (0.5BY). After the battle of yavin Veers resurrected the Walker program, upgrading them and deploying them on multiple battle fields such as Corellia, Chandrila, and Gormen.

Later it was used at Hoth.


There is a book though called Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader (Read it, its a good book) which takes place straight after the aftermath of EP3 focusing on him, getting used to the new suit and hunting down a pack of jedi hiding on Kashyyyk.

The last half of the book focuses on the battle of kashyyyk and im surprised that the people who did the story for this game didnt use the book for their first level.

Kazi
19-09-2008, 18:20
So I started playing, and I got very frustrated at the camera and the saber controls. Also the little interactive cutscenes. But I like using Force Push and Lightning. And the non-interactive cutscenes.

Requiem
19-09-2008, 23:08
It's really easy to ignore the story. Just pretend its an alternate universe where vader and palp are nothing more than punkass bitches.

One thing that seriously puzzles me. They overpower the force powers and then underpower the saber? I can bring down a starship but my laser sword that's supposed to cut through anything is basically nothing more than a glorified baseball bat that just happens to glow?

That makes so much sense. Like it'd really make a difference if the saber could kill in one hit and chop people to bits on the first go. God mode is god mode.

Kazi
19-09-2008, 23:28
They overpower the force powers and then underpower the saber? I can bring down a starship but my laser sword that's supposed to cut through anything is basically nothing more than a glorified baseball bat that just happens to glow?

Also, this. QFE.

Colt
20-09-2008, 01:22
One thing that seriously puzzles me. They overpower the force powers and then underpower the saber? I can bring down a starship but my laser sword that's supposed to cut through anything is basically nothing more than a glorified baseball bat that just happens to glow?

That makes so much sense. Like it'd really make a difference if the saber could kill in one hit and chop people to bits on the first go. God mode is god mode.

This I agree with. Soooo woulda prefered to slice n dice. Not to mention the base-ball bat thing got me killed a couple times. The enemy went flying but weren't dead, so I had to hunt them down, all the while being shot :|

Kazi
20-09-2008, 01:29
So I started playing, and I got very frustrated at the camera and the saber controls.

+


The enemy went flying but weren't dead, so I had to hunt them down, all the while being shot :|

=

Anderson
20-09-2008, 01:32
That wasn't Garm, that was General Kota :/

You are either dumb or it's version differance.
Since both in PS2 version of the game and the book, General Kota was found by Galen in bar on Nar Shaada, while Garm Bel was captured by mandalorians on Cloud city and that's where Galen rescued him.

ACiDuS
20-09-2008, 01:42
It's really easy to ignore the story. Just pretend its an alternate universe where vader and palp are nothing more than punkass bitches.

One thing that seriously puzzles me. They overpower the force powers and then underpower the saber? I can bring down a starship but my laser sword that's supposed to cut through anything is basically nothing more than a glorified baseball bat that just happens to glow?

That makes so much sense. Like it'd really make a difference if the saber could kill in one hit and chop people to bits on the first go. God mode is god mode.

They released a code to make the saber 100% lethal, go google it.

Furry_rodian
20-09-2008, 01:51
Interesting, what would be cool is a Dead Space style system with disembodiment, I want some M rated Star Wars!

Colt
20-09-2008, 04:26
You are either dumb or it's version differance.
Since both in PS2 version of the game and the book, General Kota was found by Galen in bar on Nar Shaada, while Garm Bel was captured by mandalorians on Cloud city and that's where Galen rescued him.

In the 360 version the first time you see Garm is at the meeting on Correlia. On Bespin you find Kota in a bar like an idiot drunk and have to fight imps as you make your way out.

savingpvtgeorge36
20-09-2008, 05:40
I also like how getting thrown in the vacuum of space doesn't necessarily kill you in this game.

Vox Clamantis
20-09-2008, 06:31
Interesting, what would be cool is a Dead Space style system with disembodiment, I want some M rated Star Wars!

Most of the MBII servers would get rated M for language...

;)

~Gabriel

Xadus
20-09-2008, 07:07
You are either dumb or it's version differance.
Since both in PS2 version of the game and the book, General Kota was found by Galen in bar on Nar Shaada, while Garm Bel was captured by mandalorians on Cloud city and that's where Galen rescued him.


If you're talking about the 360/PS3 version, then you're the one who's dumb. You find Kota in Cloud City...and as Colt said, you see Garm on Corellia and really only Corellia. :P

Assassin
20-09-2008, 07:13
Most of the MBII servers would get rated M for language...

;)

~Gabriel

Online interactions not rated by ESRB.

Vox Clamantis
20-09-2008, 08:48
Online interactions not rated by ESRB.

Which is really kinda stupid. Any violent game will get played mostly by teenagers and guys in their 20s, so if it's online, it's gonna be vulgar.

~Gabriel

DarthCuddlyEwok
20-09-2008, 13:29
I'm considering getting TFU for wii. Should I?

ILoveMyGirlFriend
20-09-2008, 13:48
I'm considering getting TFU for wii. Should I?

I would get it on ps3 or 360, I wouldent bother getting it for wii just because you can use it as a saber, save that exprience for the Clone Wars wii game! Your only going to get the best effects and exprience of those consoles to be honest. I have it on 360 and my cousion as on wii and its far better on 360 you can do more.

Anderson
20-09-2008, 14:04
If you're talking about the 360/PS3 version, then you're the one who's dumb. You find Kota in Cloud City...and as Colt said, you see Garm on Corellia and really only Corellia. :P

Obviously I was talking about PS2 version and the book, if you couldn't tell that by the context, you're poor at reading D;

SpongerobertoSquarepantalones
20-09-2008, 14:10
Maybe people could just discuss with eachother without playing on the man.

DarthCuddlyEwok
20-09-2008, 16:29
I would get it on ps3 or 360, I wouldent bother getting it for wii just because you can use it as a saber, save that exprience for the Clone Wars wii game! Your only going to get the best effects and exprience of those consoles to be honest. I have it on 360 and my cousion as on wii and its far better on 360 you can do more.

I don't have a 360 or PS3 :(

Colt
21-09-2008, 00:13
I don't have a 360 or PS3 :(

Get a 360, then you'll own the only two decent consoles out there.

Assassin
21-09-2008, 00:52
Get a 360, then you'll own the only two decent consoles out there.

Subtle trolling at it's finest.

agentoo8
21-09-2008, 01:12
Gameplay: 5/5
Cinematics: 5/5
Story: 3/5 - I liked it up until the end. I'd have preferred it if instead of defeating Darth Vader, you instead trap him somewhere so that you can confront the Emperor alone (this is for the Light Side ending). Starkiller kicks ass and all; but toying around with Vader, the Chosen One, like a doll? Nono.

Kazi
21-09-2008, 02:21
lrn2spoilertag, agent. ;_;

Axel
21-09-2008, 02:31
He throws the Emporer around like a Rag Doll, this game only served to ruin the orginial trilogy by having Vader and the Emporer look like pathetic nobodies. As far as I know with the Clone Wars series and this game, I am done with star wars and need to find a new hobbie.

Bobnumerotres
21-09-2008, 04:17
I literally spit out my drink all over my monitor reading that
SPOILERS: (spoiler tags should really be a part of the buttons on the post window)
Why? I rented the game and the storyline is awesome. I mean, choppy at points, but being the birth of the rebellion? That's awesome.

No moar spoilers

The wii version looks like the PS2 version and that's garbage being that it's several times more capable, however it's far from an eyesore as these reviewers have made it out to be. Great controls or not, the "heavy" console (360, PS3) versions are FAR better.

Glitchy as hell though. I would imagine that, with all the time and bottomless pockets they had to make this game, they would get out major bugs like doing an aerial slam on an enemy, falling through the floor and into a JKA-style void. That's downright pathetic.
Edit: In addition to the above, I've seen AI failure (like a stormtrooper just standing there, spacing out, not attacking you until you smack him around with your saber) more times than I can count.

As far as gameplay in general goes though, the game is ****ing awesome. I'm guessing the reviewers played it on zygote mode with god mode on and bitched about "how it's too easy, push one button and win, you don't get to use your combos". Bull.

Play it on Sith Lord/the unlocked difficulty after beating it. It's freaking impossible. If you don't approach every situation tactically and carefully, you die faster than a kid being dropped into a giant meat grinder (and pretty much 80% of the combat in the game is the enemy throwing absolutely everything they've got at you, especially the final level.)

Colt
21-09-2008, 05:15
Am I the only one who never got a ST to grab onto a ledge? I've flat out hovered a ST next to a ledge and let go and he just fell to his death. I wanted to see him hang on for dear life :(

Bobnumerotres
21-09-2008, 05:21
Am I the only one who never got a ST to grab onto a ledge?

Yes. Try pushing them off the ledge and watch them battle against inertia, and let go in fear of having their arms ripped off.

Colt
22-09-2008, 04:25
Yes. Try pushing them off the ledge and watch them battle against inertia, and let go in fear of having their arms ripped off.

They allways just flew right off :\

savingpvtgeorge36
22-09-2008, 05:40
They allways just flew right off :\

so dont push as hard:p

ZeroT
22-09-2008, 05:53
Every action they do is Euphoria, btw.

But as for saving themselves, yeah I barely saw any of that. But really, if you were in their position, how would you react? You're a regular guard on duty, and then all of a sudden a dude lifts you up telekinetically and tosses you 100 MPH through the air. I think you'd **** your pants.

I saw one cool instance where I tossed a stormtrooper off of cloud city, and he landed on the slanted area. He tried climbing up Jango style but slipped off and fell to his doom.

Colt
22-09-2008, 10:20
I saw one cool instance where I tossed a stormtrooper off of cloud city, and he landed on the slanted area. He tried climbing up Jango style but slipped off and fell to his doom.

If only stormies had spikes in their arms.

Bobnumerotres
23-09-2008, 03:37
I've made stormtroopers hold hands so many times, it never gets old. Even the omega commando stormtroopers near the end of the game holding hands with shock troopers to keep from being flung into an abyss. It's hilarious.

ZeroT
23-09-2008, 03:37
I've never done that lmfao

Kazi
23-09-2008, 04:20
I just finished the game.

Those flying stormtroopers that were there with the AT-ST at the end? I've never raged so hard at a video game before.

ZeroT
23-09-2008, 05:01
Yeah, that part on Hard was frustrating as ****.

It took me an assload of tries, since I've never upgraded my lightning shield. :(

ACiDuS
23-09-2008, 17:39
I've rented this. Actually found it really fun. Some of the level design is awful though, especially the junk yard levels, urgh.

ZeroT
23-09-2008, 17:57
Yeah Raxus Prime was beautiful but sucked really hard.

Khage
11-10-2008, 19:40
Bumped for seriously lulz

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/251-Star-Wars-The-Force-Unleashed

Zero Punct ftw

DaveGrohl
11-10-2008, 19:49
Its more of a Wii rant than a TFU review

Khage
11-10-2008, 20:31
Still....

FishClown
12-10-2008, 01:36
FISH NEEDS TO SAY SOMETHING.

TFU WAS POOPY.

A buddy of mine rented it and wanted me to try it out with him. Normally I refuse to play on silly consoles, but I was bored. We got to the part with that mando guy Chopp'a, and I said to myself "SAY, THIS SEEMS A TAD BIT FAMILIAR."

Thats cause the game is really really repetitive.

You get in the level, button mash to beat up all the starting enemies, run around a little, then something a bit bigger pops up. You kill it, run around more, and have to beat up something bigger. THEN, you have to go fight a boss. Its like this pretty much every level.

Raxus (thats what the junkyard place was rite? D=): Fight the lil droids with swords, fight the dog droid thing (walks on all fours), fight the junk bohemoth (massive speel chek) fight the boss droid with the sword, fight the jedi.

Felucia (SPEEL CHEK): Fight the warrior people, fight the rancors, fight shaak

Cloud City: Fight the bounty hunter/thug people, fight those annoying headbutting axe wielding pig things, fight the big robot thingy, fight chopp'a

And for people who say "BUT FISH, THATS ONLY 3 LEVELS LOL!", those 3 levels seem to last forever, at least for me.

So yeah, poopy. Most fun I had was slamming imps into each other.

Was the PS2 version btw.

ninja burger
12-10-2008, 01:42
Was the PS2 version btw.
lol...

FishClown
12-10-2008, 01:48
lol...

not my fault my friend is too cheap to buy the big fancy consoles @_@

Azuvector
12-10-2008, 02:19
Its more of a Wii rant than a TFU review

Indeed. Misses all the actual good and bad points of the game in favour of ranting about the Wii. If you're an anti-Wii sort, I'm sure you'll get a laugh out of it. I still enjoy mine though, so...

Bobnumerotres
12-10-2008, 03:14
Indeed. Misses all the actual good and bad points of the game in favour of ranting about the Wii. If you're an anti-Wii sort, I'm sure you'll get a laugh out of it. I still enjoy mine though, so...

A major bad point of the wii version is that it doesn't have difficulty levels and it's just insanely easy. Why the hell would they take out difficulty options?

Pilo T
12-10-2008, 03:35
because each version is unique.

Bobnumerotres
12-10-2008, 03:37
because each version is unique.

And? Taking out options = Bad.

Pilo T
12-10-2008, 03:38
Yeah, but we're talking about TFU. That's what they excel at.

cjalw1
12-10-2008, 04:27
i still want this for pc

WorldsLargestIpod
12-10-2008, 05:26
I actually liked the game. Although i got it for Xbox, not Wii.

I like the concept, of course, the euphoria engine and the effects and what not. However i the game was lacking somehow. if you took a copy of the xbox engine and set it for PC, a few private developers could really take this game to an extent that would make it as epic as lucasarts tried to get people to beleive it would be.