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"You know, you can put lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig."
I'm SO HORRIBLE!
I'm a Sexist now!
D:!
really, how STUPID is this? Distractions for the win? Distractions! You are on NOTICE!
http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/165017/april-17-2008/on-notice---barack-obama-against-distractions
I am unsure of what you are trying to convey, but if I have understood you right, the fact that McCain used the expression about Hillary Clinton first; should entertain you.
Silly really, he wasn't referring to anyone specific, he was making a metaphor in reference to the re-labelling of old policies and presenting them as reforms.
McCain can't win an election against Obama, so the only tactic he has is to try and bring him down to his level with smears, lies and misinterpretations.
savingpvtgeorge36
12-09-2008, 07:14
Well it doesnt help obama that he does gaffs all the time.
Well it doesnt help obama that he does gaffs all the time.
He doesnt. McCain just fabricates things to cling to out of nothing.
Metaguardian
12-09-2008, 08:04
Silly really, he wasn't referring to anyone specific, he was making a metaphor in reference to the re-labelling of old policies and presenting them as reforms.
McCain can't win an election against Obama, so the only tactic he has is to try and bring him down to his level with smears, lies and misinterpretations.
That would be why McCain is winning the opinion polls at the moment?
Lets see, they've just had their convention and named a running partner...if they weren't leading polls after those 2 they may as well give up now.
But hey, go ahead and argue the case for McCain...its not like its Americans that suffer if they elect another warmongering idiot. We've had 7 years of choking on their political ignorance and moral hypocrisy, so whats another decade or so.
Every time someone like bush or McCain gets elected it just further proves that the racists, the hicks and the isolationist morons outnumber the thinking population of the USA....I honestly dont think a lot of Americans would know the rest of the world existed if they werent mindlessly shipping out their first borns to blow it up.
Lets see, they've just had their convention and named a running partner...if they weren't leading polls after those 2 they may as well give up now.
But hey, go ahead and argue the case for McCain...its not like its Americans that suffer if they elect another warmongering idiot. We've had 7 years of choking on their political ignorance and moral hypocrisy, so whats another decade or so.
Every time someone like bush or McCain gets elected it just further proves that the racists, the hicks and the isolationist morons outnumber the thinking population of the USA....I honestly dont think a lot of Americans would know the rest of the world existed if they werent mindlessly shipping out their first borns to blow it up.
The unfortuante truth. I'm gonna register to vote sometime prior to the elections and give my boy Obama my vote.
GRIMMAH!!
12-09-2008, 08:30
He doesnt. McCain just fabricates things to cling to out of nothing.
#1 rule of politics
when swaying the masses, fabricate nothingness into somethingness, even if it's still nothingness.
Deli Pastrami
12-09-2008, 08:47
the 'ol mudslinging tactic
Every body mudslings. Obama isn't innocent. As for the lipstick on a pig saying, that's an old saying. He didn't neccessarily mean it in refrence to anyone. As for Acid, man, it seems like I dissagree with you on everything. :P
Vox Clamantis
12-09-2008, 10:23
Since the last presidential election, I have no faith in voting Americans. Electing Bush the first time was a mistake; nobody could have seen it going this poorly. Electing him the second time, however, was an act of naked insanity.
-Technical Definition of Insanity-
insanity: the breakdown of reason such that an individual will repeat an action and expect a different result
It doesn't matter who gets put on the ballot or what issues get media coverage. Americans are incapable of making sound decisions because they are the most ignorant people on this planet.
~Gabriel, born in the USA
Oliver1799
12-09-2008, 11:09
It makes me sad, but McCain will probably win this election. The fact that they've started using the familiar tactic of demanding apologies for everything makes that even more likely: American politics is driven by personality, and if one of the candidates is made to seem like a jerk, it doesn't matter what anyone believes in, that guy will lose. How did this country full of complete morons become the most powerful in the world? (No offence to any Americans here; I'm talking about the average American being a complete idiot, not necessarily you.)
Since the last presidential election, I have no faith in voting Americans. Electing Bush the first time was a mistake; nobody could have seen it going this poorly. Electing him the second time, however, was an act of naked insanity.
-Technical Definition of Insanity-
insanity: the breakdown of reason such that an individual will repeat an action and expect a different result
It doesn't matter who gets put on the ballot or what issues get media coverage. Americans are incapable of making sound decisions because they are the most ignorant people on this planet.
~Gabriel, born in the USA
~ would like to point out Al Gore won the Popular vote....
~ Would like to point out he's lived in Florida all of my life.
How did this country full of complete morons become the most powerful in the world?
They gave birth to the Baby Boomers. These people put their own ideology ahead of the nation's welfare. They'll send their children to war to protect that ideology.
It takes everything the other generations can do to keep the nation from becoming a theocracy.
Þahricida
12-09-2008, 13:20
America is a clown, lol
GenTronSeven
12-09-2008, 15:10
I had an insanely long post quoting how all of you are wrong and how obama's character is essentially that of a bigot, guilt by association and how if Mccain were in the KKK (an equivalent bigot organization) he would never hold a public office, but decided to erase it because none of you care about how the obamessiah could be wrong in anyway.
Also, it is obvious that you wouldn't make comments about a pig and lipstick days after the other candidate used lipstick. It is not only no longer funny, it also automatically relates you to that person and even accidentally calling a woman a pig is a bad idea. (Probably only an "accident" after if backfired though)
Oliver - If the US is so moronic but they are the most powerful in the world, what does that say logically of the supposedly superior?
Keshire - I have no idea how you came to hate religion so much, just remember that obama was a member of a radical, hateful and racist church for 20 years if that is somehow the most important issue to you. (You don't go to church for the building, as mr. obama would have you believe)
Finally, the strangest thing about all of you foreigners is that you think we should support obama because he will do things that are the best for you and you criticize us and tell us we are morons for not voting for the candidate that is best for your country.
George Bush has many flaws, fortunately for this time in history, caring about what is best for the "global community" is not one of them.
Honestly, it is like the labour party in the UK. I agree with their stance on defense obviously, but I do not support them and I do not like them because they are detrimental to the nation, even if they are probably the best party for me as a citizen of the US. (I don't know if the labour party has changed, I am speaking of the party of Tony Blaire)
Obviously people outside of the US would want the candidate who is most likely to give them foreign aid and cede more in treaties for the sake of "getting along". (In reality, raping the US of its military secrets like china did to clinton, lowering the security of the free world)
I also think most people misunderstand the republican party. It has been years since a republican has been president that was a true conservative.
The modern republicans support the entire gauntlet of social programs of every kind, they just don't believe in expanding those programs to be bigger than they are now in most cases. For instance, the US has perhaps the third largest state health care program in the world already, a fact that mr. obama would not have you believe. (More people get their health care from the government here than in the UK, France, Canada etc)
Most conservatives don't even like the republican party because the republicans are socialists.
Vox Clamantis
12-09-2008, 15:34
America is a clown, lol
A clown with 10,000 nuclear warheads, most of which are deployed in submarines around the world.
:eek:
Suddenly, for the first time in my life, I fear clowns.
~Gabriel
GenTronSeven
12-09-2008, 16:27
For the record, if you wouldn't vote for Mccain, voting for obama is equally worthless:
Mccain is for:
-Perpetuating state ran health subsidization and virtually all other social programs
-Working with democrats on basically all social issues.
-Has no executive experience at all.
+Continuing the war until it is finished. (Any day now actually, violence has dropped from 120 incidents per day a year ago to only 20 now)
+Acknowledging the fact that there are one or two conservatives left, although not caring really, just being happy they will probably go to vote for him.
obama is for:
-Raising taxes on the top 60% of families. (This changes depending on who he is talking to though.)
-Instead of just perpetuating social programs, he wants to get them changed to federal programs he can take credit for.
-Has no executive experience at all.
+He will continue the war until it is finished.
+He will acknowledge anybody who would vote for him, even if they can't. (Most of his supporters can't.)
They look pretty much the same, no idea why anybody would faun over obama as if he were there messiah.
Honestly, it is like the labour party in the UK. I agree with their stance on defense obviously, but I do not support them and I do not like them because they are detrimental to the nation, even if they are probably the best party for me as a citizen of the US. (I don't know if the labour party has changed, I am speaking of the party of Tony Blaire)
Tony Blair retired from politics over a year ago. If this section of text doesnt prove you're one of the isolationist blockheads I'm talking about, I'm not sure what could.
Everything your leader does in the world is your responsibility, if you just turn your head and say 'meh, only what happens in america matters' you're first of all a very selfish, ignorant person, but second of all if you think none of this will come back to haunt you you're also deluded. America has all this trouble with terrorism now because of what you have done in the past...and the actions of the last 7 years have only made you and your allies bigger targets.
The thing is, a lot of americans find all this as horrifying as everyone else, but they're outnumbered to the point of hopelessness.
GoodOlBen
12-09-2008, 18:16
If the US is so moronic but they are the most powerful in the world, what does that say logically of the supposedly superior?
If James is so moronic but is the best american football player in the school and all the goodlooking girls like him, what does that say logically of the supposedly superior?
USA just bulges their muscles and the unthinking majority is in awe while the "geek countries" just stay out of the way to avoid getting bullied.
Being the most powerful doesn't mean being the most wise. It's like in poker. Give a great poker player the largest stack, he'll play only the best hands and most likely win the tournament rather than an amateur who'll just go and play every hand and slowly decrease his chipstack to nothingness.
George Bush sure as hell isn't a good poker player.
I can't believe people even consider voting for McCain. :|
~Gabriel
Sadly, I feel the same way about Obama.
I mean, I like the guy, and I like some of his speeches, but from what I can tell he has no genuine solutions, fluctuating stances and positions, and he's been milking the Green fad for everything it's worth (which odd that it actually has any).
Do I like Mccain? No!. I despise most of everything about him and his party. However, I do agree with some of policies and solutions, and feel they have merit.
A plan for nuclear power plants, reforms for social and healthcare that aren't stark crazy, and he's for drilling while we seek alternative energy sources. You can't get alternatives if you don't have a stable economy or if it doesn't have any energy sources left.
Many of Obama's proposals just don't really have much basis in reality.
Daven Coyle
12-09-2008, 18:33
but from what I can tell he has no genuine solutions, fluctuating stances and positions http://www.barackobama.com/pdf/ObamaBlueprintForChange.pdf
=) Can't say i agree with the man on everything but sounds like he does have some genuine solutions though perhaps not always the best. Granted some of it does is more or less rhetoric but it is a campaign =X
Oliver1799
12-09-2008, 20:51
:rolleyes:
Oliver - If the US is so moronic but they are the most powerful in the world, what does that say logically of the supposedly superior?
Wha...?
It doesn't say anything about "the supposedly superior". I was just stating that it's surprising that a nation of retards (for the most part) has managed to become the only super power. If anything it says that intellectual fortitude has nothing to do with how powerful a nation can become, as clearly evidenced by the distinct lack of intelligence shown by the world's one super power.
As for the rest of your post; no one really cares about your partisan ramblings any more. We "foreigners" are merely stating how stupid American politics and its electorate are in general. No other first world country still clings to social darwinianism like you do. Everyone else has realised why it's wrong. Yes, it may help the economy overall, but the economy is a means to an end, not an end in itself. The end of a higher quality of life for all is far more important than the GDP. If, like America, a good portion of your country lives in abject poverty, it shows that you are a failed nation irrespective if your relative economic power. When will people like you learn that?
The reason that "foreigners" prefer Obama over McCain is that your Democrat party is the equivalent to our right-wing parties. Your whole political spectrum is so far shifted to the right of what is decent that people like you are taken seriously. In any other civilised country, the Republicans would be considered a far-right extremist fringe group. Only in America are such idiotic ideologies taken seriously. Please grow up as a country and join the rest of us in the 21st century.
:rolleyes:
savingpvtgeorge36
12-09-2008, 21:05
As Acid said in an early thread if the world would vote today obama would be president. Unfortunately the majority of Americans are stupid and think that voting in another 4 years of Bush is going to bring about change. I myself and voting for Obama. Yes I understand that he hasn't gone into depth about his policies but i'll take my chances with his policies over the failed republican policies.
For the record, if you wouldn't vote for Mccain, voting for obama is equally worthless:
Mccain is for:
-Perpetuating state ran health subsidization and virtually all other social programs
-Working with democrats on basically all social issues.
-Has no executive experience at all.
+Continuing the war until it is finished. (Any day now actually, violence has dropped from 120 incidents per day a year ago to only 20 now)
+Acknowledging the fact that there are one or two conservatives left, although not caring really, just being happy they will probably go to vote for him.
obama is for:
-Raising taxes on the top 60% of families. (This changes depending on who he is talking to though.)
-Instead of just perpetuating social programs, he wants to get them changed to federal programs he can take credit for.
-Has no executive experience at all.
+He will continue the war until it is finished.
+He will acknowledge anybody who would vote for him, even if they can't. (Most of his supporters can't.)
They look pretty much the same, no idea why anybody would faun over obama as if he were there messiah.
I would like to point out that Obama would NOT Raise taxes on Middle Class, he would LOWER it and Raise it on the Rich..
Also, You can't have ****ing experience as president, only a PRESIDENT Can.
McCain can't claim Presidential Experience, 'Cause he hasn't been president.
Many of Obama's proposals just don't really have much basis in reality.
Oh, but don't worry, McSame\Bush's way of things is ALOT better than objectives that make logical sense if you READ his stances on his website?.....
I <3 Acid noaw.
Just remember, McCain made fun of Obama for telling us how to get better gas mileage ;)
Just remember, McCain made fun of Obama for telling us how to get better gas mileage ;)
That the United States Automobile (something) agreed with Obama on.
jaateloauto
12-09-2008, 22:25
The problem isn't that America votes idiots to be presidents, but that the president has so much power in USA. A more democratic alternative is better than this battle of icons.
The problem isn't that America votes idiots to be presidents, but that the president has so much power in USA. A more democratic alternative is better than this battle of icons.
Wrong, THIS President for some reason.. has power over the people.
The people have completely forgotten their place in our system. A revolution would be good, I hate to say it.
GenTronSeven
12-09-2008, 22:52
I am not sure to go the route where I say that you don't agree so therefore I am a block headed "isolationist" or writing that I stated that tony blaire was no longer in office so his replacement could have changed party policy. Anybody can call somebody else a block head, it is quite the opposite because I am willing to stand up and have a differing opinion from 95% of the community. (Ipod and a few others agree on some things)
Foreigners is not a negative word, it simply means one not of the country the topic pertains to, using it does not imply xenophobia.
Also, Oliver, I am not really partisan at all. I am far more economically conservative than the republicans or democrats. I do agree with the republicans on national defense and a few other things. My support for Mccain is because obama is the polar opposite of what I want in office, where as Mccain is just generally opposite.
Just remember, McCain made fun of Obama for telling us how to get better gas mileage
Actually, his solution to decreasing oil supply was to inflate your tires. This is obviously the solution, spot on mr. obama.
Also, You can't have ****ing experience as president, only a PRESIDENT Can.
McCain can't claim Presidential Experience, 'Cause he hasn't been president.
Governors are an executive office. I didn't say experience as president, I said executive experience. Had I desired to make it look worse for obama, I would have said "-Has experience campaigning" as that is the scope of obama's political experience.
Also, to the GDP > standard of living crowd, lets look at some poverty levels:
UK: 14%
Germany: 11%
US: 12%
Canada: 11%
In these other countries, it hasn't helped them to have a lower poverty.
would like to point out that Obama would NOT Raise taxes on Middle Class, he would LOWER it and Raise it on the Rich..
And you guys think I am partisan?
obama actually did vote to raise taxes on the top 60% of people, rich to me is probably the top 10% of incomes if that. (Not that I support ANY tax increase)
The Mccain ad saying he'd raise taxes on incomes over $42,000 a year was true however slightly misleading.
Those making $42,000 would have only a $15 tax increase, note that $42,000 is far far from rich as it is still under the per capita income.
Since $42,000 isn't even out of the lower half of incomes yet, it is safe to assume that those 10% higher would be getting hit much harder. (still in middle class.)
obama isn't campaigning on this policy because he is more intelligent than an amoeba, but the fact that he'd vote on a tax increase for the middle class should give you an idea of how he really feels.
If you changed the statement to "obama never agreed to raise taxes on the poor", then I'd be forced to agree.
The problem isn't that America votes idiots to be presidents, but that the president has so much power in USA. A more democratic alternative is better than this battle of icons.
The president doesn't actually have that much power, he can't make any legislation himself, the only way he can control power is by vetoing legislation that has already been passed.
WorldsLargestIpod
12-09-2008, 23:08
You can label hope and change on the same old silliness of Foreign Interventionism, Unbalanced Budgets, Welfare States, and Socialization of the markets, but it's still the same poverty inducing pig that it was from 1913 to all societies that destroyed themselfs because of their foolishness.
GenTronSeven
12-09-2008, 23:13
Me and Sevv have agree on something.
There won't have to be any blood shed in the revolution, here are our terms, the enlightened people of the north will gladly wish to dispose of their conservative block heads as well so I am sure they will agree:
Vancouver would go to the People's Republic of North America, the rest of British Columbia to the United Capitalists. (You may call us Jesusland if you like)
(Blue is typically conservative, red typically liberal in case somebody got confused looking at my map - Some of the states probably would not be invited to the blue country though, such as iowa, that voted for Bush but are usually democrat)
Oops, I forgot to color Manitoba blue, I am pretty sure they have a conservative majority in the house.
Oliver1799
12-09-2008, 23:17
Also, Oliver, I am not really partisan at all. I am far more economically conservative than the republicans or democrats.
Then you are clearly crazy. We're not living in the medieval era anymore; most people have realised that the role of the government should be more than just defence and justice.
The worst thing is that you don't care that your perfect utopia would include millions dying of starvation, of easily treatable medical conditions, millions without electricity or other basic rights, etc. You are so mental that you would rather pay a few less tax dollars and see people dying in the streets than help your fellow human being by giving up something which you don't really need. Your ideology is medieval at best, just plain evil at worst.
No other first world country would produce someone as deluded as you: I really do feel sorry for the large minority of sane Americans that have to put up with people like you and the resulting presidents. God help you all.
Oops, I forgot to color Manitoba blue, I am pretty sure they have a conservative majority in the house.
Manitoba is staunchly NDP. So no.
UnsungHero
13-09-2008, 02:17
I don't like either of the canidates tbh, and whoever gets elected will have their share of faults and will be blamed for it, as well as things that they didn't have control over. No matter what bad things happen, people will have a tendency to blame it on someone else, even if it is a natural disaster.
Also, You can't have ****ing experience as president, only a PRESIDENT Can.
McCain can't claim Presidential Experience, 'Cause he hasn't been president.
The thing about the experience issue is that people are forgetting that campaign runs themselves are a good sign of how the actual presidency will be run.
McCain has repeatedly avoided talking issues, as well as based his campaign on attacking obama.
It also quite frequently doesn't look like McCain is in the driver seat of his campaign. Much how it often looks like Bush is just a puppet of his cabinet.
And what has Obama been doing in the meantime? Spouting nonsense about "hope and change", flip flopping all over the place about issues and turning into a bumbling dazed freak whenever someone or something knocks him off his predefined scripts and teleprompters. Obama seems as much of a puppet to me as McCain does.
They are both crap of the highest order, and this election has the two most poor choices of any in American history.
MaceCrusherMadunusus
13-09-2008, 02:46
Wrong, THIS President for some reason.. has power over the people.
The people have completely forgotten their place in our system. A revolution would be good, I hate to say it.
This comment makes me want to /suicide
jimmypage
13-09-2008, 02:50
hmmm, discussing american politics with mostly europeans on a star wars game's mod forums, this seems logical.
and yes, gl with that revolution and gl getting past the marines and army.
hmmm, discussing american politics with mostly europeans on a star wars game's mod forums, this seems logical.
and yes, gl with that revolution and gl getting past the marines and army.
Constitution states Armed Forces is not to be used Against our Citizens. It also states we have a right to over turn out government.
And, Not all of us are European.
Star Wars is American. :rolleyes:
MaceCrusherMadunusus
13-09-2008, 03:07
Constitution states Armed Forces is not to be used Against our Citizens. It also states we have a right to over turn out government.
And, Not all of us are European.
Star Wars is American. :rolleyes:
Ohhh but it will if there is a civil war. And we do, but we don't need to, it only states that if they aren't protecting our rights... and they are doing that just fine. And SW was also filmed majorly in England and had huge elements in Australia.
jimmypage
13-09-2008, 03:12
Constitution states Armed Forces is not to be used Against our Citizens. It also states we have a right to over turn out government.
And, Not all of us are European.
Star Wars is American. :rolleyes:
oh my bad, i forgot that in the civil war that the US army was used to fight against the confederates.
however, i said majority i never said ''all''
and once again i never said star wars wasn't american.
Ohhh but it will if there is a civil war. And we do, but we don't need to, it only states that if they aren't protecting our rights... and they are doing that just fine. And SW was also filmed majorly in England and had huge elements in Australia.
Star Wars is American, if not more-so Asian because of it's fighting style.
Erm, The government is not protecting our rights...
Take a look at the last eight years with a brain, would you?
The Civil War was different.... Not a Revolution..
MaceCrusherMadunusus
13-09-2008, 03:22
Star Wars is American, if not more-so Asian because of it's fighting style.
Erm, The government is not protecting our rights...
Take a look at the last eight years with a brain, would you?
The Civil War was different.... Not a Revolution..
Uhm, you do know a new revolution would be a civil war though right? Cause there would be 2 sides at a minimum, including me... I would be on the governments side, whilst you would be on the other opposing. I would be willing to shoot you in the face without hesitation. How would you overthrow a government without a civil war?
Give reasons why SW is American when half of it was produced out of America. The fighting style is no where near Asian... Saber fighting might be more samurai like, but doesn't mean it wasnt possible if you werent asian. Anyone with a sword back in the middle ages could have fought like that if they wanted to.
I really don't know where you get that I'm not looking at the last 8 years with a brain. I have had no problems living my life, nor have my parents. Nothing is terribly wrong, I cant believe you can even say that.
Uhm, you do know a new revolution would be a civil war though right? Cause there would be 2 sides at a minimum, including me... I would be on the governments side, whilst you would be on the other opposing. I would be willing to shoot you in the face without hesitation.
Give reasons why SW is American when half of it was produced out of America. The fighting style is no where near Asian... Anyone with a sword back in the middle ages could have fought like that if they wanted to.
I really don't know where you get that I'm not looking at the last 8 years with a brain. I have had no problems living my life, nor have my parents. Nothing is terribly wrong, I cant believe you can even say that.
Oh, Goodie, stay with the power. That's what real men would do. I wouldn't fight unless I needed to, I would much rather use my words than use my fists.
A little revolution now and then is a good thing; the tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. (1787)
MaceCrusherMadunusus
13-09-2008, 03:38
A little revolution now and then is a good thing; the tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. (1787)
Goodie, not you then.
Goodie, not you then.
Blood doesn't have to be physically shed. I could say I have been pouring my 'sweat and blood' into a speech, or political action. Thomas Jefferson was speaking of Blood has in anything that you give up to follow your position.
MaceCrusherMadunusus
13-09-2008, 03:44
Blood doesn't have to be physically shed. I pour my 'sweat and blood' into a speech. Thomas Jefferson was speaking of Blood has anything that you give up to follow your position.
Either rephrase, rewrite or something, cause that just went with the wind.
Either rephrase, rewrite or something, cause that just went with the wind.
Now?...
MaceCrusherMadunusus
13-09-2008, 03:54
Blood doesn't have to be physically shed. I could say I have been pouring my 'sweat and blood' into a speech, or political action. Thomas Jefferson was speaking of Blood has in anything that you give up to follow your position.
:rolleyes: still really makes no sense towards what we were talking about, but w/e... im done arguing with the pre-teens.
:rolleyes: still really makes no sense towards what we were talking about, but w/e... im done arguing with the pre-teens.
Oh, Goodie. I win again. Good thing I'm not a pre-teen. ;)
Please don't pull that stupid line, we all know you've lost but you don't want to admit it.
Do you want me to write you a prescription for a pair?
MaceCrusherMadunusus
13-09-2008, 03:59
Oh, Goodie. I win again. Good thing I'm not a pre-teen. ;)
Please don't pull that stupid line, we all know you've lost but you don't want to admit it.
Do you want me to write you a prescription for a pair?
Yep, i just let that go right to your ego, congrats, you have won. Good job, you deserve a medal.
*closed*
Threads like this just can't exist on these forums.
It's quite sad really.
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