So when do we get full-on Hoth

[Particle Man]

I mean tr00 battle of hoth, not these cheap knockoffs we've been having. I'm talking AT-AT/WWI Trench Warfare Biatches!!
Oh, and speeders. SNOW SPEEDERS!

[MaceCrusherMadunusus]

http://www.moviebattles.com/wiki/Mb2_hoth

[Particle Man]

THat walker doesn't look like a vehicle... neither does the speedar.
How come every other time I've asked this I got my ass kicked?
Hold the imperials until the falcon escapes?! That wasn't the obj in the movie! Who is smoking what here?! They have to defend the shield generator long enough for the first 2 transports to escape. Falcon came after imperials entered the base.

[MaceCrusherMadunusus]

THat walker doesn't look like a vehicle... neither does the speedar.

What says they cannot be converted into vehicles?

[Particle Man]

k maybe so buut
That was the least of mah complaints. I saw a new Death Star in the works- Is that Darth Zappa's deathstar or a new escape from the death star?
If the latter can you cut a chunk of it off and make it Luke vs Vader and palpy? XD

[MaceCrusherMadunusus]

k maybe so buut
That was the least of mah complaints. I saw a new Death Star in the works- Is that Darth Zappa's deathstar or a new escape from the death star?
If the latter can you cut a chunk of it off and make it Luke vs Vader and palpy? XD

Based off Lindseys CMP one, new layout... better visuals, new OBJ and that stuff. It is Episode 4 tho, not 6.

[Particle Man]

'kay. What about my other Hoth-related crying (About the blatant movie-inaccuracy obj)?

[MaceCrusherMadunusus]

'kay. What about my other Hoth-related crying (About the blatant movie-inaccuracy obj)?

Too early to tell, hasnt even got into testing phase.

[Particle Man]

Oh. Any word on the outside battle with trenches and ****?

[MaceCrusherMadunusus]

Oh. Any word on the outside battle with trenches and ****?

Still too early to tell there as well.

/me prods Teelos.

[Metaguardian]

I've still got my Hoth Ion Cannon Control Station map design, specs, FA and script details if anyone decides to finally use it.:(

[Aéró]

Need more hoth maps srsly. Someone should put the old Hoth map (with the snowstorm) on some Servers.

[Jack of Blades]

there was a snow storm map in mb2?Or do you mean like the one in single player?

[Mashirafen]

lol, I remember the old Hoth. =P

I tried playing it once, I don't think it works any more.

[Teelos]

THat walker doesn't look like a vehicle... neither does the speedar.
How come every other time I've asked this I got my ass kicked?

I am not the only one who thinks that Vehicles in JKA handle really poorly and to be honest I did not want to create a Hoth map that was based around flying snowspeeders and large laggy open spaces. its just not interesting to map.


'kay. What about my other Hoth-related crying (About the blatant movie-inaccuracy obj)?

With the asbence of a fully exterior map, There is no real point in having to destroy a generator to get to echobase. At the moment that map takes place when the imperials have reached echobase and are starting their assault. The objective isn't finalised, But I am seeing how the map-flow works.

And as of its progress, I have been working on it alot more than you can get a whiff of in the wiki, Which includes some trench warfare. I am open to suggestions of what people would like to see in it, but its still not going to include full range open snow planes.

[Plasma]

I did a battlefield hoth awhile back but it never got release :p

[Aéró]

I did a battlefield hoth awhile back but it never got release :p

Can we know why? :mad:

[Plasma]

Can we know why? :mad:

Mace wanted to do one and now his not but I still can't be arsed to release it.

[GoodOlBen]

Can we know why? :mad:

It sucked donkey kong nuts imo. No offense :D

It was just atat and rebel fighter spam D;

[Particle Man]

Damnit! The full-range open snow planes were what I was primarily asking for... (Cries in corner)

[UL-532]

If you want an ultra laggy map, go map it yourself. Otherwise, play Battlefront.

[Mr_Oujamaflip]

It won't be ultra laggy. Recently we played the siege_destroyer copy in MB on DGs server with about 25 people, no lag, no crash, just awesome.

[WorldsLargestIpod]

It won't be ultra laggy. Recently we played the siege_destroyer copy in MB on DGs server with about 25 people, no lag, no crash, just awesome.

SB destroyer is incomplete as far as i am concerned. So long as A wings remain the only usefull fighters any sentiment of enjoyment in that game will be half what it could be.

[Mr_Oujamaflip]

That's not strictly true. I was getting 8-10 kills a round in the Z-95 as well as the X-Wing. I got like 15 in the A-Wing, but that's another story. The problem is the Imperial fighters aren't that good. I was keeping up with an Interceptor in a Y-Wing. Not to mention unless the entire team does it the objective is damn near impossible for 2-3 to manage alone.

Whatever. The point is, ships don't lag that much. Most ground vehicles don't lag at all. Yavin with the AT-PT and AT-ST doesn't lag at all and that's a big, open map.

[Ford]

http://www.moviebattles.com/wiki/Mb2_hoth
one day mb mappers are going to discover acdsee and be able to do batch brightness increases for all their screenshots

[Kazi]

I want to play the base JA Hoth siege in MB gametype.

[Pilo T]

I am not the only one who thinks that Vehicles in JKA handle really poorly and to be honest I did not want to create a Hoth map that was based around flying snowspeeders and large laggy open spaces. its just not interesting to map.

Thank god. When I realized your AT-AT WAS being used in a Hoth map (back when you were still CMP, I thought you'd decided to use it in a map that would actually make awesome use of it, rather than just having it be a ****ty prop on Hoth? It looks far too awesome to be placed as a part of the Hoth attack), I was afraid you were going to make an "LOL ****TY VEHICLE MAP!"

A traditional Battle of Hoth map would be one of the worst possible map ideas for MB2 on this engine. It'll NEVER work. Even without lag, JA vehicles just plain suck.

[Aéró]

Thank god. When I realized your AT-AT WAS being used in a Hoth map (back when you were still CMP, I thought you'd decided to use it in a map that would actually make awesome use of it, rather than just having it be a ****ty prop on Hoth? It looks far too awesome to be placed as a part of the Hoth attack), I was afraid you were going to make an "LOL ****TY VEHICLE MAP!"

A traditional Battle of Hoth map would be one of the worst possible map ideas for MB2 on this engine. It'll NEVER work. Even without lag, JA vehicles just plain suck.

QFT.

Vehicles arent that Awesome,than everyone thinks. ;)

[Frog]

I want to play the base JA Hoth siege in MB gametype.

hehe so do i

[UL-532]

Is that a request?

[Luk]

I have base Hoth as .map file, I can covert it and set up FA mod :) , but only if its necessary. Its not hard to do, because map is already made :P

Should I make ?

[Particle Man]

Go ahead. It'll be hard to do in 5 minutes though... lol.
Anyway, vehicles aren't as awful as you all say. Yeah, they're not all that sophisticated, but they're not horrible.
Make a vehicle and a non-vehicle version?

[Frog]

Is that a request?

not to you ^^

[Luk]

So.. well now's urs chance to change some character , .. any FA ideas - i will try to make as it is in original - but still , if some ideas about FA ;)

And where to get movie battles empty levelshot's ?

[Particle Man]

I'll design an FA, but my FA characters always come out buggy.
No, scratch that. Too busy ATM, sorry. Badass OP'd Darth Vader that almost can't die pl0x/

[Luk]

I have almost completed FA , so...

[Pada V4.5]

Now you work fast. Almost like a second Plasma...

[Luk]

Is it possible to set time limit to more than 5 min ?

[UL-532]

No.

456

[Gabriel]

The problem is the Imperial fighters aren't that good. In base siege when you lock onto an enemy with secundary fire and fire a missle, it becomes a homing missle. Because of this imperial fighters have superiour firepower (more missles), and rebels have superiour manueverability to balance it out in BASE.

In MBII however, when you lock onto someone with a missle, it doesn't become a homing missle. Hence, imperial fighters suck ass against most rebel fighters in MBII :( :( :(

[Particle Man]

In base siege when you lock onto an enemy with secundary fire and fire a missle, it becomes a homing missle. Because of this imperial fighters have superiour firepower (more missles), and rebels have superiour manueverability to balance it out in BASE.

In MBII however, when you lock onto someone with a missle, it doesn't become a homing missle. Hence, imperial fighters suck ass against most rebel fighters in MBII :( :( :(
You got part of it backwards and part of it just plain wrong.
1. Homing missiles in MBII: Possible; it's been done (Prison Raid V3)
2. All rebel ships except the z-95 had homing missiles, and the z-95 had a straight fire missile
3. The only imperial ship with a homing missile was the TIE-Bomber. TIE-Fighter, TIE-Advanced, and TIE-Interceptor were faster than rebel vehicles and did NOT have homing missiles (Even though A-wing should be faster than the Interceptor and the X-Wing, according to several online sources, should have the same speed and maneuverability as the basic TIE-Fighter... but I can see why Raven did it they way they did).

In closing, that's not why they'd be unbalanced in MBII, and, if it were, they are a team of modders. They can fix it.

[Particle Man]

Is it possible to set time limit to more than 5 min ?

If you have a GTK you can split the map off at each 2 objectives, making 3 mini hoth maps for mbii. Epic.

[Aéró]

If you have a GTK you can split the map off at each 2 objectives, making 3 mini hoth maps for mbii. Epic.

Lulz Hoth Map pack D:

[Mr_Oujamaflip]

If you have a GTK you can split the map off at each 2 objectives, making 3 mini hoth maps for mbii. Epic.

Actually... I always liked the idea of one big map, divided into 5 minute rounds per objective. You die you only respawn once the objective has been completed or the 5 minutes are up (at which point you go back to the most recently completed objective). With continuously updated spawn points for reinforcements as you progress through each mini objective the spawn moves to the next area. This would allow for more epic almost baseJK siege but still very MBII battles.

[UL-532]

The problem with that is doing the objective would have to cause a map change. There's no way to play a continuing battle on a map as at the end of the round everything is reset.

[Mr_Oujamaflip]

The problem with that is doing the objective would have to cause a map change. There's no way to play a continuing battle on a map as at the end of the round everything is reset.

There's the problem. If instead of a straight reset, everything could be respawned elsewhere so you could have one huge map with three smaller maps on it we'd be away.

[Particle Man]

That would be awesome. And whoever wins each round would push their team forward and the other team back sort of like in Battlefront!

[UL-532]

That would be awesome. And whoever wins each round would push their team forward and the other team back sort of like in Battlefront!That sounds like it would get very old, very fast, once the novelty wore off of course.

[Aéró]

That would be awesome. And whoever wins each round would push their team forward and the other team back sort of like in Battlefront!

Sounds like Base Siege for me,or are Imps able to get the Obj back :eek: ?

[Particle Man]

My idea involved rebs pushing back after imps took an obj.

[Plasma]

For anyone that wants to edit that bf_hoth map they can (.map included), map comes as is because I'm not working on it anymore.

http://files.filefront.com/mb2+BF+Hothpk3/;11624131;/fileinfo.html

[Aéró]

For anyone that wants to edit that bf_hoth map they can (.map included), map comes as is because I'm not working on it anymore.

http://files.filefront.com/mb2+BF+Hothpk3/;11624131;/fileinfo.html

This map is great Imo.I also like tha Ambience there.Why did you Stop making it?

[Plasma]

This map is great Imo.I also like tha Ambience there.Why did you Stop making it?

Mace said he wanted to do one and Teelos started his while in the CMP I had a few other projects going at the time so I decided to let it go.

[Particle Man]

Was this ever used?

[Tallfire]

Any chance that the Falcon could fit anyone? (Its always way to small, like its made for mice that steal brains)

Isn' there a MF prefab that you could walk into and walk around in? I think is SJC's but maybe if youre allowed to use it that would be just awesome. Like after a while you would be able to hack the ship to escape.

[MaceCrusherMadunusus]

Any chance that the Falcon could fit anyone? (Its always way to small, like its made for mice that steal brains)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmdkih9TvWs

Take a look near the end of the video.

[Particle Man]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmdkih9TvWs

Take a look near the end of the video.

1. In the prison cell area where they pretended to have captured chewie, the elevators went down. Please tell me they do in the map.
2. Is the FA similar to tradefed in that you can only play the heroes and nobody else?

[ILoveMyGirlFriend]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmdkih9TvWs

Take a look near the end of the video.


Looks great thumbs up:):)

[Particle Man]

In the over-one-year epic revive of this thread, I demand a progress report!

[Mango]

In the over-one-year epic revive of this thread, I demand a progress report!

Agreed.

[Particle Man]

Bump! Progress report NAO!
Also, I wanna make battle of hoth music since baseJKA's is unsatisfactory. kthnxbai

[Acemaco]

THat walker doesn't look like a vehicle... neither does the speedar.
How come every other time I've asked this I got my ass kicked?
Hold the imperials until the falcon escapes?! That wasn't the obj in the movie! Who is smoking what here?! They have to defend the shield generator long enough for the first 2 transports to escape. Falcon came after imperials entered the base.

LOLZ then you make it

Looking good Macey..Keep up the good work

[Particle Man]

LOLZ then you make it

Fact is, after 5 years of trying, I can't get GTK to work on my mac and, at this point in the game, there's little to gain from me learning now (that and, like the devs themselves, I have a life and responsibilities and can't devote much time per day on much of anything). So I'll sit here and complain to the makers about how I demand canon fanboyism. It's why I'm here.

[Bobnumerotres]

http://www.moviebattles.com/wiki/Mb2_hoth
Imperials are attacking..never good for balance.

Looking good so far though! CC should still be top priority.

[Particle Man]

Imperials are attacking..never good for balance.

Looking good so far though! CC should still be top priority.

It's movie-accurate. Why's that a bad thing tho? Rebel defense is just different 'cause of different weaps and ****. Fewer snipers.

[Acemaco]

Fact is, after 5 years of trying, I can't get GTK to work on my mac and, at this point in the game, there's little to gain from me learning now (that and, like the devs themselves, I have a life and responsibilities and can't devote much time per day on much of anything). So I'll sit here and complain to the makers about how I demand canon fanboyism. It's why I'm here.

I hear ya bro
Mac may be good but can fail in some parts :(

I wish i could make Mace Maps

[Metaguardian]

Mace isn't the one making "Hoth". Teelos is.

[MaceCrusherMadunusus]

Mace isn't the one making "Hoth". Teelos is.

Thank you, i was waiting for someone to actually pay attention :P.

[Kazul_MB]

*On the edge of his seat waiting for the DofT killer.

Is it here yet? :O





EDIT:
Just looked at Mace's site. ...Just wow, cannot wait for new maps.

[SpongerobertoSquarepantalones]

Imperials are attacking..never good for balance.

Looking good so far though! CC should still be top priority.

Meh nothing wrong with imps attacking. Good for a change

[Lindsey]

hopefully the objective won't be able to be spammed by dekas this time around. That was one of the major flaws in my version :/

[Metaguardian]

hopefully the objective won't be able to be spammed by dekas this time around. That was one of the major flaws in my version :/

Well take heart in the fact that Theed is one of the most "edge of your seat" pug maps.:)

[MrEmperor]

That is very true Meta. I really like Theed.

[SPaMSandwich!!]

I love theed! I think it should go in officially, just cut out some of the back areas where everyone gets lost

[Assassin]

Imperials are attacking..never good for balance.

Looking good so far though! CC should still be top priority.

Why the **** should any map be priority when all anyone ever plays is DOTF?

Also, nothing wrong with imps attacking as long as the objective is not conductive to deka/mando rushing.

[MrEmperor]

Why the **** should any map be priority when all anyone ever plays is DOTF?

Also, nothing wrong with imps attacking as long as the objective is not conductive to deka/mando rushing.

Other serves do exist, like EW, CoR, and GIN's FA server. Not to mention CF and others. Non-dotf 24/7 servers do exist! Don't neglect them, or else we will be stuck forever on dotf.