Quarter-Finals

[Metaguardian]

With all European preliminary matches complete, and only 2 American preliminary matches remaining, Quarter-Final time is upon us. The rules are a little different, as each team now selects a map and doesn't reveal it until the match starts! Additionally, there may be a small round change format (instead of first to 5 round wins for each half, it might be a best of 5 for each half) so that matches don't take forever. This weekend sees the European quarter-finals being played out, while next weekend will see the American quarter-finals being played out.

European Quarter-Finals:

Team Poland v Finnelite

Daemon Vice Eternal v The Corruption Force

D-Generation v NovaHawks

Crazy Hunters v JAC

American Quarter-Finals:

Team Prodigy v Legion

Thunder from Down Under v The Verge

Dekas in the Vents v The Fixes

C-Crew v CoR

[Palin]

I wanna get a spec spot for team poland's match

[HiC]

I wanna get a spec spot for team poland's match

Same here, but wrong thread, amirite?

[Metaguardian]

This is just for discussion about the quarter-finals, all the spectator apps and all that will be in the usual spectator thread.

[GogettO]

So euro teams _MUST_ play their matches to end of this week?

[Metaguardian]

I'm pushing for that yes, but if it's impossible for some teams to play this weekend then obviously it will have to be delayed.

[MAS]

What the hell? D-Generation lost their match with great numbers, how can they be in the quarter-finals? :|

[GogettO]

What the hell? D-Generation lost their match with great numbers, how can they be in the quarter-finals? :|

That was non-elim. match.

[MAS]

So why would there be made a difference between the teams? One team flies out when it loses, the other one progresses anyways. In my opinion that's just making a competition unfair...

[{M}ArroW]

the best teams were put into non elimination Mas,... :S

[MAS]

Why? And who makes up which team is the best? If a team loses that team obviously isn't the best team around.

In the upcoming European Championship there are obviously favorites (Italy, World Championship winner). If that team doesn't make it through the group stages, you really think the UEFA will let them go through 'because they're the best'?!

All teams should have equal chances of making it to a final, people who make tournaments shouldn't set favorites in the advantage.

[Part-T]

If meta wants certain teams to go through and other not irrespective of how well they did its his choice, it is his tourney after all. I was just wondering what sort of hit the loosers of the non-elimination are taking? Do they have to win by a massive lead to get rid of the loss earlier on or what?

[Metaguardian]

Well put it this way, I had two choices when I decided on a knockout format for the tournament (and don't go whining saying we should have done round robin, as that would have meant three times as many matches and I was unsure at Mb2 clans' abilities to organise match times and promptly stick to them prior to the tournament):

Format A:

-- All of the teams are put randomly into one big draw pile and are drawn for each match. While some matches luck out and are evenly matched, other matches pit super teams against minnow teams (for instance Team Poland v Unlimited Euro POWAAAA or Team Prodigy v the Disney Fairies) or some of the draw matches pit super teams against super teams (hell you could have had Team Poland v European dV[8] in the opening round). This was the greatest problem in Jnive's tournament. In the early rounds, strong teams were pitted against each other while there were lots of easy bash games for some of the stronger teams).

Format B (the one that was used):

-- You separate the stronger teams from the lesser teams. I think it's clear who the stronger teams are, and with the exception of JAC in the European draw, all of the non-elimination teams in both the American and European draws have proven to be the best teams there. The stronger teams are separated from the lesser teams and jockey for position, while the lesser teams fight it out amongst themselves for the chance to move into the latter phases of the tournament. This leads to better competition between both the stronger teams, and the lesser teams, instead of easy bash games that could have arisen had stronger teams been randomly drawn against weaker ones from the start. The system of matching non-elimination teams with elimination winners in the quarters aims to give the best of the elimination teams (those that won by the largest round margins) a chance to proceed further by pitting them against the non-elimination teams that lost or won by the least round margins.

In summary, this system is obviously not the ultimate format, but it's the closest to the best format you can get for a knockout tournament with teams of varying qualities.

[Part-T]

Gotta be honest, it strikes me as a bit odd that the rubbish non-elim teams then get an easy time of it by going against what are apparently worse teams (due to them being in the elimination bracket) but as i say its your choice and thanks for sorting it all out! For next time, maybe have 2 devisions with the top teams from each goin on to play each other in a knockout or something, as i think the main bitterness is getting beaten to some teams meant no more games (ie only got to play one match) whereas it meant to others they get an easy time of it in the quarter finals. Through it being elimation after only 1 match as well it didnt really give a team that had a bit of bad luck/an off day/so on a chance to redeem themselves whereas the good teams could be terrible and get away with it. As i say tho, you went to the trouble of organising it, so thanks again!

oh and mantank would've won if they'd subbed me on :p

[GoodOlBen]

I'd say that the best way to find out what clan is the cream of the crowd would be a league. Sadly as it stands, no one has the energy and time to organize one.

Before someone steps up to the task, this'll be how it's going to be.

[ShadeyMan]

What the hell? D-Generation lost their match with great numbers, how can they be in the quarter-finals? :|

Mwahahaha.

This is what happens when I don't lead them into battle!

[Varlesh]

In the upcoming European Championship there are obviously favorites (Italy, World Championship winner). If that team doesn't make it through the group stages, you really think the UEFA will let them go through 'because they're the best'?!

There are seeings for the euros fyi. In the group stage there are 1st seeds, 2nd etc.. So this avoids the best teams all being drawn in 1 group.

[Anonymus]

the best teams were put into non elimination Mas,... :S

i dont care but it is unfair anyway.;)

[Part-T]

There are seeings for the euros fyi. In the group stage there are 1st seeds, 2nd etc.. So this avoids the best teams all being drawn in 1 group.


The higher seeds still have to win to get through not just go through for being counted as great (i think thats the point mas was making)
Your example is backwards to the way the tourney is, it was make to sure the good squads only played the good squads not to make sure there was a healthy mix in the early stages.
BUT as always, its meta's tourney and he can run it however he likes and we should be grateful he had the motivation to do it!

[Varlesh]

Yeah I know, but being the smartass at football that I am I had to be an ass a correct him!
:p

[MAS]

Party was correct. Varlesh, whise ass :( you know what I mean :(

[HiC]

I don't mind it. When a Qualifying team beats a Non-elimination team, all the more glory.

[agentoo8]

To be frank, this is probably what the Quarter-Finals would have looked like. I say probably because, obviously, nothing's for sure. But like in Rugby World Cup, where England/SA/Australia/NZ are usually the favourites, this follows en suite per se.

[Part-T]

dont you mean less glory as they might not have won anything to get to the point their at!? I suppose at least it gives ner ner you suck no matter the community thinks of you rights tho!

[Khage]

Mwahahaha.

This is what happens when I don't lead them into battle!

The amount of times you've put emphasis on the fact you haven't played is lol

[Metaguardian]

I don't mind it. When a Qualifying team beats a Non-elimination team, all the more glory.

NANAKI NO RAMBO! NANAKI STAY IN COVER! DAMNIT NANAKI!

Fixes vent was hilarious during the Fairies v Fixes match.:D

[HiC]

NANAKI NO RAMBO! NANAKI STAY IN COVER! DAMNIT NANAKI!

Fixes vent was hilarious during the Fairies v Fixes match.:D

Was my voice as sexy as you imagined?

[Metaguardian]

Was my voice as sexy as you imagined?

I can't remember who it was, but one of you, maybe Corsair it was or something, was very different from what I expected.

[HiC]

I can't remember who it was, but one of you, maybe Corsair it was or something, was very different from what I expected.

I was the guy talking the most. Palin was the one yelling at Nanaki the most.

[Metaguardian]

Updated with American quarter-final details.

[prilladog]

Legion vs Team Prodigy?

Least they will be better than EW.

[Palin]

I was the guy talking the most. Palin was the one yelling at Nanaki the most.

It worked, after that He got his sh*t in gear and pulled the team kills-wise.