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Metaguardian
06-05-2008, 04:05
The current Raging Battles tournament has been fantastic so far and the level of commitment, teamwork and skill by all the teams involved has been a pleasant surprise. Now I know we're quite a long way away from discussing future tournaments as this one is quite far from being finished (May 10/11 weekend is Euro quarter-finals, 17/18 is American quarters, 24/25 is the American semi-finals and the European semi-finals, May 31/June 1 is the American grand final & European grand final and June 7/8 is the international grand final). But judging by the positive response to this tournament and the general consensus that there needs to be more competitive events in Mb2, I'd like to sound out for some possible future tournament events.

Before I sound out some ideas, I'd like to just let you all know that the Raging Battles Mb2 tournament will return at the end of this year (early December, maybe with a small hiatus over Christmas/New Year, and then end in late January). This will give clans something to work up to, thus giving meaning to 'clan practices and scrim's' that before-hand lacked a great deal of significance. There will probably be a bit of a different format, possibly a round-robin system etc, but there's plenty of time to work things out. But before and also after then, I'd like to hold more, but different, kinds of tournaments. I had some ideas that I thought I should brainstorm you guys with to gauge public opinion:

1. Saber tournament

-- 1 v 1 (This would be like Saberfang's one held ages ago that Jaat won) Pro of this is that it's mono e mono, best saberist in the game would win, Con is that there would be a huge load of duel matches to organise.
-- Pairs. Pro of this would be that it involves teamwork, so that introduces a new element to the saber tournament that the 1 v 1 lacks, Con is that backwhacks might prevail???
-- 4 v 4 (This would be like DSi SilentKai's saber tourney). Pro is that more people can play and it becomes a really team-oriented saber duel, Con is that it might become a little spammy.

2. 'Podfitness' tournament rules

In Australian Mb2 last year a big tournament was held where most of the top players in Australia participated. The rules were 3 v 3, but the difference was that each team had to have a soldier, elite trooper, and hero/BH and no grenades were allowed, except for the BH's thermal. What happened was an awesome gunner extravaganza, and the whole dynamic of the matches changed. Without saberists to sense, and the cheapness of SBD's, dekas, Mando rockets, clone blobs, arc rockets, and all that, you had a really tense gunner battle and lots of maps that couldn't ordinarily be played in matches like Dust 2, Echo Base, etc, could be. I'd love to see a tournament like this on the global Mb2 stage.

3. Gunner tournaments (more novelty oriented)

-- Sniper tournament (projectile rifle only, no dodge allowed)
-- 1 v 1 ET war (e-11 only, 1 life, no grenades, would be to determine who the best gunner is in Mb2)
-- 4 v 4 ET wars (same rules, but would determine the best gunner team)

HiC
06-05-2008, 05:38
ARC versus Mandalorian, lulz.

I think a 2v2, one soldier, one ET, is a more enticing tournament than a 4v4 ET thing...

Andrew Past
06-05-2008, 07:04
We need a 1v1 pistol tournament again. I was doing well in the old one before it fell through. :(

(Btw, there was a special pistol duel map, set in a wild west setting, with 100/60? and pistol 2, not pistol 3.)

Azuvector
06-05-2008, 07:12
2 vs 2 paired saberdueling sounds nice.

Metaguardian
06-05-2008, 08:03
We need a 1v1 pistol tournament again. I was doing well in the old one before it fell through. :(

(Btw, there was a special pistol duel map, set in a wild west setting, with 100/60? and pistol 2, not pistol 3.)

Tom made a 'Pistolduel' map for it that was a wild west setting with identical pistol classes. I remember once we played it on the FA server with 24 people and after an epic game of pistol gluttony we all lined up on opposite ends of the map and did a Civil War style pistol fight.:D

FrenchFry
06-05-2008, 08:19
Soldiers vs. Deka 15v1, the solds have 1 life, no armour, and pistol 1. The twist is the Deka has to roll/bash his face on the keyboard instead of actually using his hands to play, this is to make the fight more even.

Goose
06-05-2008, 08:29
Other. Goose style 4v4

Teams:
1 Jedi/Sith
1 Bh/Hero
2 ET's or Solds

No dodge
No poison darts
No completing objective

Varlesh
06-05-2008, 08:30
Paried saber duels sound pretty nice, 4vs4 could also be interesting.

1 wook vs 4 onelife ETs!, melee!

The Swashbuckler
06-05-2008, 08:56
Wouldn't just want to see it restricted to ET's (and admittedly, it'd make more sense to be a 4v4 soldier tourney for balance purposes), but an all-gunner tourney with only one or two of the more basic game classes available might actually force me to stray from my "no competitiveness" philosophy. It'd just be great to finally see another genuine Stormtrooper squad against a Rebel squad. Granted, I'd opt for a larger game than just a 4v4, myself. It's been far too long since anyone in this game has gotten to see a full-on 10 vs. 10 (or 12 vs. 12, or 16 vs. 16) soldier battle.

Khaze
06-05-2008, 09:56
Podfitness sounds like alot of fun, but what I'm really wanting is for tom to make a new FA for pistolduel with hitscan weapons to get a real western thing going on with it and have a tourny there. ^^

Metaguardian
06-05-2008, 10:07
Wouldn't just want to see it restricted to ET's (and admittedly, it'd make more sense to be a 4v4 soldier tourney for balance purposes), but an all-gunner tourney with only one or two of the more basic game classes available might actually force me to stray from my "no competitiveness" philosophy. It'd just be great to finally see another genuine Stormtrooper squad against a Rebel squad. Granted, I'd opt for a larger game than just a 4v4, myself. It's been far too long since anyone in this game has gotten to see a full-on 10 vs. 10 (or 12 vs. 12, or 16 vs. 16) soldier battle.

That's because the only two clans who've been able to have a match of that size since B17 have been CoR and AOD.:(

Goose
06-05-2008, 10:40
10v10 storms vs reb solds, no nades, e11 lvl1 only!!!

Palin
06-05-2008, 13:13
Mandalorian Versus ARC.

Rules: No rockets

ARC has dex to counter flying, and speed / damage to outclass the Mandalorian on the ground. Should be fun.

Thinking 2v2, or if someone would make an appropriate FA, Mandalorian versus Mandalorian would be cool.

Keshire
06-05-2008, 13:56
I'd like to see paired or 4-4. With the restriction of no same builds. It would almost entice me to enter.

decoy
06-05-2008, 15:38
yea I'd like to see a pair'd saber system or team based with 4 v 4 clan agaisnt clan 4 v 4, top 4 from each entering would be really nice to see

Varlesh
06-05-2008, 16:57
Also bigger scrims tourny? Maybe 8 vs 8. Would obviously be merc teams the majority of the times.

Andrew Past
06-05-2008, 17:56
Mandalorian Versus ARC.

Rules: No rockets

ARC has dex to counter flying, and speed / damage to outclass the Mandalorian on the ground. Should be fun.

Thinking 2v2, or if someone would make an appropriate FA, Mandalorian versus Mandalorian would be cool.
Mandalorians have the EE-3, which does 30 damage as well. So both can dish out the same damage.

Varlesh
06-05-2008, 19:56
But the arc pistols do 28 as of the patch!

agentoo8
06-05-2008, 20:49
I really want a 1v1 Saber Tournament ;)
If noone's gonna host one, I will :)

Mashirafen
06-05-2008, 20:50
Either a 4v4 saber duel, a 4v4 jedi vs sith with no sabers (for the lulz), a 10v10 sold battle (with merc teams to allow people from smaller clans to participate) or a defence 0 4v4 saber duel, which would be favourite.

ACiDuS
06-05-2008, 20:50
Would love a pairs or solo tourney. A 4v4 would also be interesting, but perhaps a bit spammy as you noted.

agentoo8
06-05-2008, 21:00
Solo tourney - to decide who MB's Overlord really is!

HiC
06-05-2008, 21:11
Mandalorian Versus ARC.

Rules: No rockets

ARC has dex to counter flying, and speed / damage to outclass the Mandalorian on the ground. Should be fun.

Thinking 2v2, or if someone would make an appropriate FA, Mandalorian versus Mandalorian would be cool.

I don't see why you'd restrict rockets. ARCs have the greatest mobility and defense against them...aside from Push.

Kazi
06-05-2008, 21:30
A 4v4 jedi vs sith with no sabers...

DO IT NOW

Otherwise the Podfitness one sounds the most interesting, but where did the word "podfitness" come from??

Varlesh
06-05-2008, 21:33
I dont like the sound of podfitness whatsoever. E-11 spam anyone? Wouldnt call that a guner extravaganzer!

Palin
06-05-2008, 21:35
I don't see why you'd restrict rockets. ARCs have the greatest mobility and defense against them...aside from Push.

Mandalorians aren't the only person with rockets here.

Remice
06-05-2008, 22:05
Im up for the 1v1, 2v2 or 4v4 saber tourament. That would kick ass.

agentoo8
06-05-2008, 22:34
Yeah.
We could use SaberFang's B17 Saber Duel Map - that was pretty awesome ;)

Mashirafen
06-05-2008, 23:00
How about...a tourney with ALL of the ideas on the list, plus some of the ones suggested. Each team chooses one type of game and one map, and you do both matches.

LewsTherin
06-05-2008, 23:31
How about a 4v4 with random teams. You could put players into 2 tiers, and draw 2 players from each

prilladog
06-05-2008, 23:32
1v1 would take forever but I guess it would be good fun.

Metaguardian
07-05-2008, 01:54
After this tournament, there will definitely be a saber tournament, although at this point I'm leaning toward a 1 v 1 or 2 v 2. Then after that there'll be a nice hiatus before the second Raging Battles MBII Tournament at the end of the year (which will give clans/teams plenty of time to prepare) and then the equivalent of the saber tournament next year after the big tournament will be a tournament under 'Podfitness rules'.

As for the 'Podfitness' name, it was a joke name created by dV[8] Siege (one of his other names is 'Pod'). Siege's team, which consisted of himself, Kez, Cyclone and myself, which ended up winning the tournament, had some nonsense tags as if some gym company was sponsoring us.:p

Andrew Past
07-05-2008, 09:01
Oh, btw... A suggestion as an amendment to podfitness, is to allow grenades, but only one per person and no secondary nades.

Also, it'd be nice if there was a tournament that was going on when I'm not busy. xD

Entity
08-05-2008, 22:20
podfitness!!1

Varlesh
08-05-2008, 22:29
I seriously dont really understand why podfitness would be enjoyable o_o. Would just end up with E11 spam.

Entity
08-05-2008, 22:31
Go cry in the corner varlush.

Metaguardian
09-05-2008, 02:23
In the Australian Podfitness tournament, it never ended up as E-11 spam. T-21 and A-280 got used a lot as well as the E-11.

iYifftofix.
12-05-2008, 00:44
Wouldn't just want to see it restricted to ET's (and admittedly, it'd make more sense to be a 4v4 soldier tourney for balance purposes), but an all-gunner tourney with only one or two of the more basic game classes available might actually force me to stray from my "no competitiveness" philosophy. It'd just be great to finally see another genuine Stormtrooper squad against a Rebel squad. Granted, I'd opt for a larger game than just a 4v4, myself. It's been far too long since anyone in this game has gotten to see a full-on 10 vs. 10 (or 12 vs. 12, or 16 vs. 16) soldier battle.

That along with the pistol fiesta sounds pretty good to me.
Or possibly something like 'react the films', where it's FA of scenes such as Obi Wan & QuiGon onboard the Federation ship vs 10+ soldiers. Whoever gets furthest wins. ;o

Supa
12-05-2008, 00:55
2 vs 2 paired saberdueling sounds nice.

What he said.

^Blaze
13-05-2008, 04:13
Im all for a paired saber tourney.

·sev·
16-05-2008, 08:41
Currently i would indeed have epic orgasms if we could get a 1v1 tournament up and running, i also like the idea of 2v2, but the thing with it is that it will turn into a rapefest would could last quite awhile:D I guess that's what makes it fun, not all players can 2v2 or 2v1 as good as they 1v1. I encourage and support metaguardian in any way possible regarding these 2 suggestions and i believe it will be some great fun for us duelers who have waited for builds together for such a thing to be held, with the supervision of people who knows how to organise such a thing. I don't know all great duelers, but i am looking forward to meeting my fellow friends and unknown friends alike o.o. I'm all for 1v1 and 2v2.

So it it's being held, it would be very fun and memorable for many members of this community who enjoy the very interesting saber system of this mod. Especially with the developments that has taken place recently.

Aéró
19-05-2008, 15:45
4 et vs 4 et would be interesting :D

Entity
19-05-2008, 19:02
podfitness who r u!?!

agentoo8
19-05-2008, 20:56
2V2 - Me and Sev, 4sho.

Varlesh
19-05-2008, 22:27
Vesh is mine! GOGOGO EURO SABER

Lervish
19-05-2008, 22:32
No point, everyone knows me and Ben would win :|

FatOrange
19-05-2008, 22:43
4vs4 ET ammo lvl 1 ,E-11 lvl1, armor lvl3, no nades, no reinforcments (or same for solds). I love the idea that it would change to meelee when the ammo is out ;p

Entity
20-05-2008, 20:51
2v2 me und lawla polymorphed + m00 for pwn. ok we all suk but extreme backstabz

Supa
21-05-2008, 00:37
Honestly, we need a gunner showdown. 6 gunners on one team, no Jedi or Sith.

1) Trooper (1)
2) Elite Trooper (1)
3) Hero/Bounty Hunter (1)
4) Clone/Super Battle Droid (1)
5) Wookiee/Destroyer Droid (1)
6) Arc Trooper/Mandalorian (1)

Basically one of every gunner class with the absence of Jedi and Sith support.

prilladog
21-05-2008, 18:52
Not really Supa, the Bounty Hunter could whipe that out in seconds...Plus epic nade spam would make it abit boring.

Myth
21-05-2008, 19:38
I'd dig some 1 v 1 sabering.

Or any sabering tourney...

Aéró
21-05-2008, 19:51
Not really Supa, the Bounty Hunter could whipe that out in seconds...Plus epic nade spam would make it abit boring.

Idd, and the Deka would be just Op'd .The dekas weakness is a jedi .

Phelps
21-05-2008, 20:43
:eek:
Well.. 1 vs 1? Kinda short ain't it..?