Super Push

[^EvilCake]

What exactly does super push do? I tried it before(Not sure if i did it right) but it was like the normal push. :s


(Yes I used search)

[Khâzad]

It pushes like x4 times and it's useless until RCII comes out.

[prilladog]

How is RC2 going to change it?

[Azuvector]

In RC1, it just pushes people farther than normal. Not really good for anything but ego points if you manage to fling someone off a cliff with it or something that you normally wouldn't be able to reach with a regular Push.
In RC2, you can injure/kill people you SuperPush when they hit something while flying through the air. If you happen to SuperPush one player into another as well, you'll also generally knock the second player flying and damage them both. (Can lead to amusing chain reactions of people crashing into each other.)

Practice up, melee Jedi. :P

(Technical note, those damage/knockdown effects aren't specific to SuperPush, they're keyed off of player velocity and knockdown status. (If you're moving at a high velocity while knocked down, they'll trigger if you hit something/someone.) So you'll theoretically be able to nade one person into a group of others and knock them all down, if the naded player achieves a high enough velocity. Sort've a poor man's physics. Not all that many things are able to crank a player's velocity up high enough to do this, outside of SuperPush though.)

Yes, this means in RC2 or RC3(Not done yet.) you'll likely be able to smash people into walls using Grip 3.

[Kazi]

Realiztick fisicks

OH MY F-CKING GOD

JUST

OH WOW

<3

[UL-532]

Well, it's as realisitic as it's gonna get. Too bad we can't code Havok into MB2...

[prilladog]

Your turning movie battles into the force unleashed :p

[Metaguardian]

Azuvector have my babies!

[Mashirafen]

Awesome.

[Khage]

Kazi's post made me lol.

Can't wait for RC2 ;D Lmao at all the gamers I constantly see ingame going "WEHN IZ B20 CUMIN OUT LOL"

[Doll]

Yay. :3

[321ewq]

How do u has superpush?

[Phelps]

Your turning movie battles into the force unleashed :p
Lfmao. True. But itsa cool idea I think..

[Delta 57 Dash]

How do u has superpush?

push 3 + pull 3.

Step 1: Switch to melee.
Step 2: Pull unsuspecting enemy.
Step 3: Push.
Step 4: ?
Step 5: Profit.

[AlphaFA]

In RC2, you can injure/kill people you SuperPush when they hit something while flying through the air. If you happen to SuperPush one player into another as well, you'll also generally knock the second player flying and damage them both. (Can lead to amusing chain reactions of people crashing into each other.)

Practice up, melee Jedi. :P

(Technical note, those damage/knockdown effects aren't specific to SuperPush, they're keyed off of player velocity and knockdown status. (If you're moving at a high velocity while knocked down, they'll trigger if you hit something/someone.) So you'll theoretically be able to nade one person into a group of others and knock them all down, if the naded player achieves a high enough velocity. Sort've a poor man's physics. Not all that many things are able to crank a player's velocity up high enough to do this, outside of SuperPush though.)

I dont know if this is NDA worth but during a beta session I kept pwning Azu by doing this.
Also, when Veshzan rolled into Plasma and I pushed him, it killed Plasma.

Thats how cool push and Super push is going to be.

[The Swashbuckler]

Step 5: Profit.
At the moment, I'd say that's an outright lie. :p

On the subject at hand, how hard do you have to be pushing the enemy in order to have them knock down other players that they hit? Does this only work with Push 3 and Super-Push? Or would Push 2 result in things like this as well?

[Azuvector]

I dont know if this is NDA worth but during a beta session I kept pwning Azu by doing this.
Also, when Veshzan rolled into Plasma and I pushed him, it killed Plasma.

Thats how cool push and Super push is going to be.

Yeah, seems to be a nice little tactic for when a low-FP saberist starts chasing you when you're low on BP. Bam, SuperPush and kill him. :P

[prilladog]

Yeah, seems to be a nice little tactic for when a low-FP saberist starts chasing you when you're low on BP. Bam, SuperPush and kill him. :P

Wow, Sounds funny :D

[Iuhrn Nor]

Wow, this'll really make the lightning 3/push 3 combo a whole lot more entertaining. AND deadly.

[Ecko]

. Sort've a poor man's physics. Not all that many things are able to crank a player's velocity up high enough to do this, outside of SuperPush though.)


Will the kata throw count?

[Deathspike]

Will the kata throw count?

Smack someone into a wall with the kata throw? Solid plan D;

[AlphaFA]

Yeah, seems to be a nice little tactic for when a low-FP saberist starts chasing you when you're low on BP. Bam, SuperPush and kill him. :P

Dont bullsh*t the forums Azu, you used sense, got pulled, then got super pushed, foo'.
xD

The whole thing with Plasma and Vesh was weird though, I dont think it should kill the person who got pushed into.

[Pilo T]

The whole thing with Plasma and Vesh was weird though, I dont think it should kill the person who got pushed into.
It should in the right situations. 180 - 200lbs of person flying into you could easily cause a lot of damage. Now talk about 300 - 400lbs of wookiee slamming into you... THAT'S not something you're gonna walk away from.

[AlphaFA]

It should in the right situations. 180 - 200lbs of person flying into you could easily cause a lot of damage. Now talk about 300 - 400lbs of wookiee slamming into you... THAT'S not something you're gonna walk away from.

Unless the team puts weights on classes (Not the slowing down kind, just invisible weight of the certain type) then it might be possible to calculate damage.

Demo;
A = Jedi = 40 damage + 25% random
B = Soldier = 30 damage + 25% random
C = Elite Trooper = 40 damage + 25% random

A successfully pushes B into C doing 46 damage to C and 32 damage to B.

[Subaru]

Hah! Finally a use for my flying wookiee build.

Str 2
Health 3
Nades 2

^_^ drop a nade at your feet, jump and go flying. All the way across DOTF's main cooridor.

[Golden Mando Bro]

This is going to be amazing, now nades are going to be fun lol. Wait, if a sith pulls you and you hit them do they fall over? PLEASE SAY YES! (in RC2)

[AlphaFA]

Hah! Finally a use for my flying wookiee build.

Str 2
Health 3
Nades 2

^_^ drop a nade at your feet, jump and go flying. All the way across DOTF's main cooridor.
o_o


This is going to be amazing, now nades are going to be fun lol. Wait, if a sith pulls you and you hit them do they fall over? PLEASE SAY YES! (in RC2)
o_o

No.

[The Swashbuckler]

This reminds me of something I used to try a lot. Will dead bodies be able to knock people over, too? I've always enjoyed a good soldier suicide explosion, and I often find myself trying to make my body hit enemies.

[UnsungHero]

Demo;
A = Jedi = 40 damage + 25% random
B = Soldier = 30 damage + 25% random
C = Elite Trooper = 40 damage + 25% random


D = Porkins = 80 damage +25% random

[Lasersailor184]

This is going to be amazing, now nades are going to be fun lol. Wait, if a sith pulls you and you hit them do they fall over? PLEASE SAY YES! (in RC2)

Now that would be hilarious.


Porkins / wooks would be 4000 damage +- 1%.

[Mashirafen]

This is going to be amazing, now nades are going to be fun lol. Wait, if a sith pulls you and you hit them do they fall over? PLEASE SAY YES! (in RC2)


This reminds me of something I used to try a lot. Will dead bodies be able to knock people over, too? I've always enjoyed a good soldier suicide explosion, and I often find myself trying to make my body hit enemies.

I wholeheartedly support both of these ideas.

[Tallfire]

Same here. What about wookiees and people with Force Block? I kinda like being forcer Jedi/Sith but I only do it for fun and they only seem useful if the entire enemy team is composed of clones, soldiers, and ets in a small area.

It would just seem classic to see a bunch of ARC or Storm Tropers trip over eachother after being pushed.

[Arcader]

Super push shouldn't be like this in RC1...
It should be two-handed, strong push wich would knock down even standing or walking gunners and damaging them (its idea from Force Unleashed)
So I think it would be a lot of fun to use it :D
1. you need to turn off your saber.
2. stand still
3. hold and charge push
4. release it
5. feel the true power of the force ;P

of course it won't be so overpowered, cuz you will be defensless and easy target for gunnes (standing still with saber turned off)

(you need force push,pull,block on level 3 to use it)
What do you think?

[F-200 Efreet]

i say that could be a cool fa feature instead, force repulse :D.

[AlphaFA]

Super push shouldn't be like this in RC1...
It should be two-handed, strong push wich would knock down even standing or walking gunners and damaging them (its idea from Force Unleashed)
So I think it would be a lot of fun to use it :D
1. you need to turn off your saber.
2. stand still
3. hold and charge push
4. release it
5. feel the true power of the force ;P

of course it won't be so overpowered, cuz you will be defensless and easy target for gunnes (standing still with saber turned off)

(you need force push,pull,block on level 3 to use it)
What do you think?
The new superpush is lol, trust me.

[Arcader]

The new superpush is lol, trust me.'

but I never saw a jedi who first pull and push someone at one time... it's just "unrealistic"

@Efreet
I think game engine won't allow force repulse, cuz of weak physics, but it would be cool to use two handed super push (my idea ;P)

[Andrew Past]

Unless the team puts weights on classes (Not the slowing down kind, just invisible weight of the certain type) then it might be possible to calculate damage.

Demo;
A = Jedi = 40 damage + 25% random
B = Soldier = 30 damage + 25% random
C = Elite Trooper = 40 damage + 25% random

A successfully pushes B into C doing 46 damage to C and 32 damage to B.
That doesn't make any sense. A Jedi would have less equipment, and therefore, less weight than a soldier...

And Porkins should be 9001 damage.

[alenoguerol]

Your turning movie battles into the force unleashed :p

agreed.. :eek:

[Arcader]

Don't you feel the lack of PC version? :D
It would be nice if we could even see a little bit of that game in a mod...

[AlphaFA]

Don't you feel the lack of PC version? :D
It would be nice if we could even see a little bit of that game in a mod...

Why? What do you WANT?
Force Repulse? Backhand saber style? Force throw?

[Plasma]

Don't you feel the lack of PC version? :D
It would be nice if we could even see a little bit of that game in a mod...

This isn't Force Unleashed Battles 2, it won't behave exactly, nor will every element of FU be put in.

[Arcader]

This isn't Force Unleashed Battles 2, it won't behave exactly, nor will every element of FU be put in.

I mean just a little bit :/
maybe a skin... maybe new lightsaber... maybe a little changed powers like super push... who knows :D


p.s well bachand saber style isn't bad idea :P

[AlphaFA]

I mean just a little bit :/
maybe a skin... maybe new lightsaber... maybe a little changed powers like super push... who knows :D


p.s well bachand saber style isn't bad idea :P

We had a skin, but it was terrible.
Lightsaber? You mean a new hilt? If any modeler is willing, sure, why not?
Super push is getting changed and has changed for RC2, its alot more powerful and is very useful against enemy jedi during an attack. On the minus side of it, Sith can buy Lightning 3, push 3 and pull 3 because its to many points! (You can, but ill-advised), Jedi seem to have an upper hand at the current fix.

[Supa]

In RC1, it just pushes people farther than normal. Not really good for anything but ego points if you manage to fling someone off a cliff with it.

Omg. Love it.

[Arcader]

We had a skin, but it was terrible.
Lightsaber? You mean a new hilt? If any modeler is willing, sure, why not?
Super push is getting changed and has changed for RC2, its alot more powerful and is very useful against enemy jedi during an attack. On the minus side of it, Sith can buy Lightning 3, push 3 and pull 3 because its to many points! (You can, but ill-advised), Jedi seem to have an upper hand at the current fix.

terrible means what? ugly? lagy? what??
if it has changed, what can you say about it? so powerful that can knock anyone down? still: first pull and than push or is this changed too?
well backhanded saber style would be awesome ;P

[AlphaFA]

terrible means what? ugly? lagy? what??
if it has changed, what can you say about it? so powerful that can knock anyone down? still: first pull and than push or is this changed too?
well backhanded saber style would be awesome ;P

Terrible as it it looked horrible and possibly crashed(?)
Super Push effects have changed but the operating 'Pull then push' is still there.
Backhand style would be useless as everyshot would hit and every swing would kill you.

[iYifftofix.]

Terrible as it it looked horrible and possibly crashed(?)
Super Push effects have changed but the operating 'Pull then push' is still there.
Backhand style would be useless as everyshot would hit and every swing would kill you.

Atleast it would make people e-penis' bigger whenever they managed a very rare kill. :)

[Arcader]

Backhand style would be useless as everyshot would hit and every swing would kill you.

lol... so you don't need to hold right mouse button to defend/deflect anymore?

so when no blocking, you would hold your saber on the back, but when defend pressed and holded you would simple turn into defence position.


p.s new moves would be cool :P

edit: yes, this isn't force unleashed battles 2, but wtf where did super push idea come from????

[Mashirafen]

Terrible as it it looked horrible and possibly crashed(?)
Super Push effects have changed but the operating 'Pull then push' is still there.
Backhand style would be useless as everyshot would hit and every swing would kill you.

I would still use it.

[Arcader]

..or even better... when no blocking, saber is held on your back, but when you wan't to block, position isn't changing but only delfecting/blocking when precision shot/slash is coming at you!
I know, and I'm sorry, but force unleashed isn't coming for PC's... you should understand ;P

[Azuvector]

but wtf where did super push idea come from????

Funnily enough, some of us do like to exercise creativity outside of what Lucas thinks up.

[Arcader]

Funnily enough, some of us do like to exercise creativity outside of what Lucas thinks up.

so are you going to add some new ,,powers,, like super push in future?
super grip maybe? :D

[Mashirafen]

Super Speed that hurts people and knocks them over when you run into them? Super Jump with extra mario damage? Super Pull, which is activated by pushing then pulling, which sends them flying into you really fast? Super MT which...makes people fall over when you MT them?

[AlphaFA]

Now you're just being stupid.
Back hand saber Might be easy to put in, FA wise anyway. Staff style + Backhanded hilt = Easy.

[STo/2mi]

i think you should make the game based on star wars movie, and not make up stuff outside lucas tbh defeats the whole object of the game

[Arcader]

Now you're just being stupid.
Back hand saber Might be easy to put in, FA wise anyway. Staff style + Backhanded hilt = Easy.

I don't get it, but I think it should be a new style, FA only, with new hilt...

[AlphaFA]

i think you should make the game based on star wars movie, and not make up stuff outside lucas tbh defeats the whole object of the game

Lmfao.

[AceVentura]

i think you should make the game based on star wars movie, and not make up stuff outside lucas tbh defeats the whole object of the gameyou mean that game called the force unleashed, where lucas has been working closely with?

[Azuvector]

so are you going to add some new ,,powers,,

http://www.moviebattles.com/features_sensitivetotheforce

[Arcader]

http://www.moviebattles.com/features_sensitivetotheforce

these are ,,normall,, forces, nothing new... ?

[prilladog]

Back hander hilt would be really cool to be honest, it could be like another q3, infact maybe make that the stance for barbarian.

Yeah do that.

[Arcader]

Back hander hilt would be really cool to be honest, it could be like another q3, infact maybe make that the stance for barbarian.

Yeah do that.


ah at least someone who likes my idea :P
well it doesn't have to be Q3... maybe onother system of blocking for this style or something, like holding right mouse button and deflecting/blocking only when direct shot/attack is coming at you.... but Q3 would be realistic as hell :D

[Phelps]

you mean that game called the force unleashed, where lucas has been working closely with?

Lmao quoted for the win..

[Azuvector]

these are ,,normall,, forces, nothing new... ?

.......
I think I give up on you, kid.

[FrenchFry]

you mean that game called the force unleashed, where lucas has been working closely with?

http://www.moviebattles.com/images/logos/mb2logo.jpg

Note the part where it says Movie.

[Pilo T]

I think by this time they're well aware of the name of the mod. If you absolutely must have 100% complete authenticity with the movies, then why don't you just go watch them? That's the only way you're going to see genuine "movie battles". The only time I'm inclined to agree with the full authenticity is in Full Authentic mode.

[FrenchFry]

I think by this time they're well aware of the name of the mod. If you absolutely must have 100% complete authenticity with the movies, then why don't you just go watch them? That's the only way you're going to see genuine "movie battles". The only time I'm inclined to agree with the full authenticity is in Full Authentic mode.

Star Wars: Moviebattles II

Star Wars:Moviebattles

Star Wars: Movie

Movie

I love the mod, honestly I do, it's just sometimes it feels less like MOVIEbattles and more like JedivsSithsetinDOTFBattles.

[LewsTherin]

Then play fa :/

[Karak]

Backhander style would be black style, i saw it in some mod for ja.

[Goose]

Backhander style would be black style, i saw it in some mod for ja.

Dark Forces 2.

SPOILERS:
it's just the back side of a staff. All the animations are the same as a staff, it's just only with one side of the saber.

[Golden Mando Bro]

In RC1, it just pushes people farther than normal. Not really good for anything but ego points if you manage to fling someone off a cliff with it or something that you normally wouldn't be able to reach with a regular Push.
In RC2, you can injure/kill people you SuperPush when they hit something while flying through the air. If you happen to SuperPush one player into another as well, you'll also generally knock the second player flying and damage them both. (Can lead to amusing chain reactions of people crashing into each other.)

Practice up, melee Jedi. :P

(Technical note, those damage/knockdown effects aren't specific to SuperPush, they're keyed off of player velocity and knockdown status. (If you're moving at a high velocity while knocked down, they'll trigger if you hit something/someone.) So you'll theoretically be able to nade one person into a group of others and knock them all down, if the naded player achieves a high enough velocity. Sort've a poor man's physics. Not all that many things are able to crank a player's velocity up high enough to do this, outside of SuperPush though.)

Yes, this means in RC2 or RC3(Not done yet.) you'll likely be able to smash people into walls using Grip 3.


Would that mean flying mandos+wall=Dead? I CAN'T WAIT! broadsword 3. ftw

[Goose]

eh... hopefully the jetpack's dampening effect on push/pull will prevent such shenanigans.

[Karak]

Force manipulate would be cool too.

[cesar101]

Curious about something though, do those "Physics" affect tosses due to explosions? For example someone getting thrown into another due to Grenade/Rocket explosive?

[Aéró]

I think it only works when you get pushed into a wall.But i dont think that Jetpack wallhits inflicts damage to you.Lets see :)

[^Weedsmoker]

I smell failure idea... can bring more bugs than you can possibly imagine.

[Pilo T]

Curious about something though, do those "Physics" affect tosses due to explosions? For example someone getting thrown into another due to Grenade/Rocket explosive?

the way it's set up, yes, it will.

[Karak]

Make a new force power!

[Frog]

Curious about something though, do those "Physics" affect tosses due to explosions? For example someone getting thrown into another due to Grenade/Rocket explosive?

this already happens. in rc1 people who are exploded high enough into the air can be killed by being ''thrown to their doom''

so in rc2 i guess if you're thrown by explosion, and happen to slam right into another person, then sure you will hurt him/yourself :P

[cesar101]

this already happens. in rc1 people who are exploded high enough into the air can be killed by being ''thrown to their doom''

so in rc2 i guess if you're thrown by explosion, and happen to slam right into another person, then sure you will hurt him/yourself :P

I rarely or in fact can't say I have ever seen anyone die to a person falling from an explosion on to another person, I think it would be more common of a sight when it comes to knocking into each other how ever.

[Greenleon]

Sounds cool. I wondered why I died by knocking on the ground with jetpack enabled^^