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Captain Planet
05-03-2008, 02:16
New DotF (http://jediknight3.filefront.com/file/Phantom;87356)

RC2, go.

Frost
05-03-2008, 02:20
That map sucks.. Ours is much better tbh.

We cant add the palace corridors because of gameplay otherwise they would be in already!

MaceCrusherMadunusus
05-03-2008, 02:24
Yeah, indeed that map is way off, the textures suck majorly. Proportion is off in many areas. Lighting sucks as well.

Only thing decent IMO, is the alpha shadowed windows.

I would like to add the realistic corridors :( but meh, not really up to me.

Fang
05-03-2008, 02:36
The textures suck in the MB version too, so nothing would be gained or lost there. The N-1s would be a nice addition to the MB version though (especially if they were real vehicles).

MaceCrusherMadunusus
05-03-2008, 02:49
Textures that have depth > flat textures. So yes, it is a loss since that map has flat textures. The N1s have been planned, whenever I get around to finishing them.

bigFoot
05-03-2008, 03:07
The N1s have been planned, whenever I get around to finishing them.

Sir - this is good news.

Captain Planet
05-03-2008, 05:07
I was kidding, by the way.

But in all seriousness, I think the throne corridors/main hallway look MUCH better in this. Also, I've hated the new brick texture since RC1 came out, so I'm kinda partial to the one they have in there.

AlphaFA
05-03-2008, 10:27
That map sucks.. Ours is much better tbh.

We cant add the palace corridors because of gameplay otherwise they would be in already!

What gameplay wise? Its played to death, I hardly think theres any gameplay invovled at all! (Wtf)

prilladog
05-03-2008, 11:14
It's good though.... I like our DOTF.

Sovario
05-03-2008, 14:43
That map is better..

Chris Roupé
05-03-2008, 14:56
no, Our map is more like the one in movies!

but that map's Throne room!!! that is cool!

Plasma
05-03-2008, 18:31
What gameplay wise? Its played to death, I hardly think theres any gameplay invovled at all! (Wtf)

Cover in the corridors would change the way the map is played.

Tbh I think that Phantom one looks alright, just not as good as the current one.

FrenzY
05-03-2008, 20:23
I know the mapper personally, and if you would like, maybe I could get a hold of him if people wanted to use that throne room instead.

I don't know, just an idea.

Myth
05-03-2008, 21:54
That DotF is way better than ours. It's bigger and has more ground in it. Also, looks to be multiple floors, which is sick. I see no problems with it.

$nakeEye
05-03-2008, 21:57
That gen room has 2 entries when you look at one of those screenshots..

Woo.. I can fall even further then, what joy ...
I do like some parts of it's texturing tho.

master yoda
05-03-2008, 22:15
I'll stick with the dotf we have now, the way it is atm is good enough.

Tough I keep thinking the open rebel spwn point looks like a big wallbug.

Juggernut
05-03-2008, 22:22
Might i ask, while we are at dotf..why isnt there any anboo ships there?
Too complex models?

Chris Roupé
05-03-2008, 22:31
yeah, I think it would be cool if you could enter a ship and just shoot, Not fly away, just shoot, but yes they must be wery slow!!

Frost
05-03-2008, 22:53
Ship models in the hangar would just give Jedis a silly advantage (they would be able to camp on top of them).

The marbly hallway isn't possible to have in our dotf without changing the way the map plays. Like Plasma already said, we would be adding big pillars to that hall and that would mean a fullbody cover on each pillar.

Chris Roupé
05-03-2008, 22:55
well, I say we should have our doft map :) , it's more like in the movies

MaceCrusherMadunusus
05-03-2008, 23:02
Might i ask, while we are at dotf..why isnt there any anboo ships there?
Too complex models?

They are too complex to keep in staticly, I do plan on having them fly out of the hangar. See my post before please, I already said they'd be added in at a later time.

Chris Roupé
06-03-2008, 15:59
I just watched Start wars I and as every time i watch it, I discover new stuff hehe. Well first of all, It's allmost as DOTF map, but, The area i think it's called: the main hall, sory i dont remember but it's the bigest hall in the map...

well the point is that it should be BIG pales insted of the small one, big one that go up to the roof..


Look at this movie: http://youtube.com/watch?v=mWa2Nut_JZ4

It start at "02:36"

and the pales look exactely as the main throne at the the Dotf map captain planet say,

have a look at the pales:


EDIT: by the way: take a look at this one :D wery cool!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=OrDPQSf_Qs8&feature=related

mir26
19-06-2008, 08:31
maybe just have ships spawn with the reb team and they fly out of hanger as round progresses one by one

Plasma
19-06-2008, 11:22
maybe just have ships spawn with the reb team and they fly out of hanger as round progresses one by one

This ...


See my post before please, I already said they'd be added in at a later time.

F-200 Efreet
19-06-2008, 12:32
remember to add the AAT outside that shoots one of the naboo fighters down :P

The Chosen One
19-06-2008, 21:11
As ****ty as those textures look, they are still more movie realistic compared to the current one.

Frog
19-06-2008, 22:31
i think dotf is good enough as it is tbh

WorldsLargestIpod
20-06-2008, 03:07
What would happen if, hypothetically... A random guy got permission from the map maker to use that map for the sake of a moviebattles 3rd party map, and actually made it work for the game, then released the file?

is that illegal?

AceVentura
20-06-2008, 03:14
Of course it's not illegal.

Anyway, we've discussed about the main hall dozens of times internally. The reason why they aren't there it's because it would make it much easier to camp.

WorldsLargestIpod
20-06-2008, 03:22
Of course it's not illegal.

Anyway, we've discussed about the main hall dozens of times internally. The reason why they aren't there it's because it would make it much easier to camp.

i FIGURED AS MUCH!

no i didn't... lol.

Anyway, i looked at it myself, the textures are not as good as the MBII team's ones, although the hall design is cooler; i can see how camping would be a problem, unless you allowed for the walls to be destroyable

Supa
20-06-2008, 08:35
Might i ask, while we are at dotf..why isnt there any anboo ships there?
Too complex models?

Nice spelling Juggernut D;

On topic.

1) The shaders on the floor of this one fail. They make the MBII DotF look good. That's saying something.

2) Textures on the walls are awesome, wouldn't mind seeing that incorporated into the RC2 version.

3) The generator room is really dark. With my current brightness Mace Windu could ninja the hell out of me. [Racism ftl D;] You get what I'm saying though.

4) That final picture is leading up to? o_o Yea, that'd be the most major dead end in the game's history.

What this map could use in comparison to other maps in MBII and JA are the shaders used in SDestroyer [The floors in the hanger are awesome whoever did that. ;O] and the walls from this current version. The generator room is nice from this version as well, but I don't think it's much of a change from the current version. The throne room could maybe look a little like the dead end featured in the final screenshot but that'd be very difficult. Also, the Naboo fighters would be an awesome addition but think about the lag issues that come along with it. It would also be a little nice to have a longer hanger because come on, hanger, fighters, pew pew!?

Nice map, if it had some of it's elements in the MBII version it might not be boring for the first few days in RC2. D;

Aéró
20-06-2008, 21:12
I just wait for new Dotf XD

Phelps
11-07-2008, 12:58
EDIT: Totally idiotic reply here was.. x.x Sorry..
Btw Gen room looks epic! But main corridor is just fail.. Not by visual, but by gameplay, rly camping place..

Phelps
13-07-2008, 13:01
Ship models in the hangar would just give Jedis a silly advantage (they would be able to camp on top of them).

Wat? There is still catwalk.. And it's higher than some ships.. And sorry I didn't realize it's DP..

Riku
13-07-2008, 14:45
MB2 version of DOTF is much better than this.. but generator room looks great D;

Tallfire
13-07-2008, 15:20
Ship models in the hangar would just give Jedis a silly advantage (they would be able to camp on top of them).


Cause we all know that the attacking team must camp to win the game. Alot like a soldier NEEDs to get inside of the command room on Kashyyyk to be able to win the game.


EDIT: Totally idiotic reply here was.. x.x Sorry..
Btw Gen room looks epic! But main corridor is just fail.. Not by visual, but by gameplay, rly camping place..

And I take it there is no camping in the main corridor in DotF?

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I say why not have both? One is called "mb2_dotf" and one is called "mb2_phantom". Like we have "mb2_cmp_labs" and mb2_cmp_cislabs.

I like how this one looks alot better, we could use a few more maps as maps usually get dull in between builds.

Why hasn't meta come saying that we should add this one for variety?
This map is played alot on OJP (its not played as much, their dotf is the base map with the lava)

Phelps
13-07-2008, 16:41
And I take it there is no camping in the main corridor in DotF?

Rofl but behind 1.5 m pillars, this is big.. There is a difference fella..

MaceCrusherMadunusus
13-07-2008, 19:45
I say why not have both? One is called "mb2_dotf" and one is called "mb2_phantom". Like we have "mb2_cmp_labs" and mb2_cmp_cislabs.

I like how this one looks alot better, we could use a few more maps as maps usually get dull in between builds.

Why hasn't meta come saying that we should add this one for variety?
This map is played alot on OJP (its not played as much, their dotf is the base map with the lava)

Have you even played it? For one it lags to ****ing death, I see you people complaining about lag all of the time in other MB2 maps. I get 70's in most in MB2! Base JKA to MB2 has about a 40 FPS drop on my PC due to so much code and models and stuff compared to base. So MBII maps would really be about 110fps on my machine... I went and played this map (in basejka), its at between 15 and 30 the whole ****in time. So in MBII it would be like 5fps by myself. It also looks bland lighting wise most areas, textures and shaders really meh... Its just pure Meh in general.

I wouldnt allow this even under a different name in the mod.

+See my other posts about this map.

Frost
13-07-2008, 20:46
Cause we all know that the attacking team must camp to win the game.

Would you really rather wait 5 hole minutes each round because a random idiot is sitting on top of an unreachable ship ?

Catwalk is accessible by everyone. Ships aren't.

Last thing we need is another dotf map for "variety".

Phelps
14-07-2008, 00:05
Catwalk is accessible by everyone. Ships aren't.

That's what I meant u can shoot bastards on ships from catwalk lol..

Tallfire
14-07-2008, 00:41
Rofl but behind 1.5 m pillars, this is big.. There is a difference fella..

Its kind of an advantage to both teams cause everyone can use them. In the main corridor, the imps get better cover than the Rebels (including the door).


Have you even played it? For one it lags to ****ing death, I see you people complaining about lag all of the time in other MB2 maps. I get 70's in most in MB2! Base JKA to MB2 has about a 40 FPS drop on my PC due to so much code and models and stuff compared to base. So MBII maps would really be about 110fps on my machine... I went and played this map (in basejka), its at between 15 and 30 the whole ****in time. So in MBII it would be like 5fps by myself. It also looks bland lighting wise most areas, textures and shaders really meh... Its just pure Meh in general.


Not for me, honestly.


Would you really rather wait 5 hole minutes each round because a random idiot is sitting on top of an unreachable ship ?

Catwalk is accessible by everyone. Ships aren't.

Last thing we need is another dotf map for "variety".

Actually, yeah. Theres alot you can do while the guy is camping, you can socialize, make a small little game, even spam binds and voice commands.

It could also be edited to where theres a ladder or a lift you can use. Like you can move it and press a button to make it raise. Its not in the map but that might be an idea for mb2_dotf and those Starfighters that are being planned on being in the map.

Variety is very importaint in a game; makes it less boring.

Mr. Box
14-07-2008, 01:09
Actually, yeah. Theres alot you can do while the guy is camping, you can socialize, make a small little game, even spam binds and voice commands.


Socialize? Play a little word game?

95% people will most likely flame the camper, try to find an admin to kick him, or if votes are allowed, call a vote to kick him, which would most likely pass.

This is MB2! :rolleyes:

Plasma
14-07-2008, 11:55
Variety is very importaint in a game; makes it less boring.

Yes it is that is why we continue to make new maps rather than new versions of DOTF, that is hardly what I would call variety.

TK-231
14-07-2008, 13:24
Yes it is that is why we continue to make new maps rather than new versions of DOTF, that is hardly what I would call variety.

It's different when it's about a iconic movie battle location :p

TK-231
14-07-2008, 13:25
Would you really rather wait 5 hole minutes each round because a random idiot is sitting on top of an unreachable ship ?

Catwalk is accessible by everyone. Ships aren't.

Last thing we need is another dotf map for "variety".

You could compromise, have the ships fly away from the hangar in the first 30 seconds hehehe.

MaceCrusherMadunusus
15-07-2008, 03:47
You could compromise, have the ships fly away from the hangar in the first 30 seconds hehehe.

Ya know, that is pretty much exactly what I plan to do. (not for next release tho, whenever I can get around to it)

Supa
15-07-2008, 16:47
Socialize? Play a little word game?

95% people will most likely flame the camper, try to find an admin to kick him, or if votes are allowed, call a vote to kick him, which would most likely pass.

This is MB2! :rolleyes:

At that point I'd have gone nuts from boredom and run out screaming HUGZ??!?!1!one!!!!!!1

And honestly. Ships flying away? I can see my score drop just thinking about it. D;

MaceCrusherMadunusus
16-07-2008, 05:15
And honestly. Ships flying away? I can see my score drop just thinking about it. D;

What if I say they are Non-solid? :P