View Full Version : Tavion & Desann get some moves...
Azuvector
08-12-2007, 00:18
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A DFA. (Jump+Forward+Attack)
Returning from JK3 Singleplayer is the 'flip-stab' move. It's incredibly tough to hit anyone with it at present, however neat it may look, though. (Especially with Yoda, given that he's got a tiny lightsaber.) For Tavion stance.
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A Lunge. (Crouch+Forward+Attack)
Simply put, you can now stab people in the face in MBII, with Desann stance. <3
The Swashbuckler
08-12-2007, 00:43
About time we got these working again. Vader's in dire need of the ability to use both Desann and Red stance in FA's, and I'd love for Tavion stance to work a bit better before we release the MAN map.
Azuvector
08-12-2007, 01:08
And for a second I was hoping for some improvements around Desann and Tavion. Like the Tavion vs Kyle duel and the Kyle vs Desann duel. Or Desann with actual size. :p
Hey, make a map. :P
Dirk Lightstar
08-12-2007, 01:12
What's that map Desann is on? Hmm?
No! Leave me alone D;
When my dev diary goes up you'll see how much work I have lol.
Azuvector
08-12-2007, 01:13
What's that map Desann is on? Hmm?
A duel map by Mace. I'll leave him to provide whatever details he'd like about it though. :)
Uh, Desann wasn't in the FA, incidentally. Tavion and Desann stances were in Open for a while, and will likely re-appear in Open at some point in the future. They're still FA-only for now though.
MaceCrusherMadunusus
08-12-2007, 01:27
Pretty much all says it here :P
http://www.redsaurus.net/mb2mapwiki/index.php/Maps:mb2_duel_revan
Just to clarify, the Desann Stance Lunge is really, really fun.
Mace, you never got on IRC that day before you went on vacation. I still have to get you those sounds. How should I do it? Do you want me to put it on YouSendIt or something and PM it to you or what?
Also, I don't think that Desann lunge would really fit Vader, so... I duno, is there a way to give Vader the Desann stance but disable the lunge? (I think there is, right?)
No. The Lunge cannot and should never be disabled.
No. The Lunge cannot and should never be disabled.
yes it should. It's not Vader at all, but the general Desann stance is a bit vader-like, so giving him the stancewithout the ridiculous lunge (well, not ridiculous for other characters) would be ideal. Otherwise it'll just be "LOL STARWARSBATTLEFRONT;NOTHINGMAKESSENSEROFL!!!!"
Assassin
08-12-2007, 03:10
Anakin stabs people all the time in ep3 game.
MaceCrusherMadunusus
08-12-2007, 03:32
Mace, you never got on IRC that day before you went on vacation. I still have to get you those sounds. How should I do it? Do you want me to put it on YouSendIt or something and PM it to you or what?
I was on, just not as late as normal since I had to get up early. What ever is easiest for you. Does not matter for me.
Anakin stabs people all the time in ep3 game.
exactly.
So darth vader should not be able to use that lunge in MB2.
The Swashbuckler
08-12-2007, 05:24
I'll agree that the lunge would be out of place for Vader. But then again, all of the special moves are out of place when it comes to movie-like combat. The only thing that even comes close to being movie-like is the staff butterfly, and with that, only the left and right butterflies seem sensible.
Nonetheless, use of special moves is ultimately a player-preference thing. If someone wants to use the lunge as Vader, they could, and I'd rather see Vader get the lunge than the stabby DFA (which definitely suits Tavion's stance better).
Now, what would be really nice is if we could have a classflag or something that disabled special sabre moves when given to a character. No rollstabs or DFA's or lunges or such.
it's not so much that I'm saying the lunge is out of place in general. Forget movie combat; that's not gonna happen. But there's at least a sense of what each character is through their combat. In the context of MB2, the lunge is fine, but it just doesn't work for Vader. I'd go as far as to say there should be a way in FA to make it so someone can't roll as well, cause I don't see Vader doing something like that. He's more of a stand in your face and take what you've got and spit it back on your shoes; he's more likely to headbutt someone than he is to roll or lunge forward like a fencer.
He's just a towering behemoth, not a graceful whirly twirly acrobat.
Alright, so Vader can lunge now... so I guess the next step goes something like giving Dexterity 3 to SBDs.
The Swashbuckler
08-12-2007, 05:31
Alright, so Vader can lunge now... so I guess the next step goes something like giving Dexterity 3 to SBDs.
I couldn't get it to work properly, though I haven't tried again recently.
I couldn't get it to work properly, though I haven't tried again recently.
hahaha, you would.
Assassin
08-12-2007, 06:44
I'll agree that the lunge would be out of place for Vader. But then again, all of the special moves are out of place when it comes to movie-like combat. The only thing that even comes close to being movie-like is the staff butterfly, and with that, only the left and right butterflies seem sensible.
Nonetheless, use of special moves is ultimately a player-preference thing. If someone wants to use the lunge as Vader, they could, and I'd rather see Vader get the lunge than the stabby DFA (which definitely suits Tavion's stance better).
Now, what would be really nice is if we could have a classflag or something that disabled special sabre moves when given to a character. No rollstabs or DFA's or lunges or such.
Yellow DFA was used by Obi-wan in EP1.
And for a second I was hoping for some improvements around Desann and Tavion. Like the Tavion vs Kyle duel and the Kyle vs Desann duel. Or Desann with actual size. :p
I was going to port it from JK2, but I had a breakdown and couldnt continue... :|
Chewbacca
20-12-2007, 09:13
Now, what would be really nice is if we could have a classflag or something that disabled special sabre moves when given to a character. No rollstabs or DFA's or lunges or such.
You can do some of that already with .sab files for specific lightsaber hilts..it would probably require some editing since the desann "lunge" is a new move though.
Mr_Oujamaflip
20-12-2007, 16:26
I was going to port it from JK2, but I had a breakdown and couldnt continue... :|
I remember asking for that :p
i hope that lunge is fast. and not like the ja+ version o- *saber in* n- *saber still in* e *saber Retreating*
=Someone=
20-12-2007, 17:24
You can do some of that already with .sab files for specific lightsaber hilts...
That's exactly how the story of the desann lunge began. ;)
Golden Mando Bro
21-12-2007, 02:26
i REALLY miss groundstab. just one question. WHY WAS THAT IMPLEMENTED. seriously how would that be useful unless you were standing on a deka.
Azuvector
21-12-2007, 03:58
WHY WAS THAT IMPLEMENTED. seriously how would that be useful unless you were standing on a deka.
It was intended to be a purely stylistic move.
It was intended to be a purely stylistic move.
nothing wrong with adding a way to finish a downed gunner that looks good. At least then push spam and blue seizures won't be quite as annoying. Is it still making a come back with improvements in a later release or has it been scrapped altogether?
There is when triggering it will, in most cases, guarantee that the gunner will be able to get clear of your attack and fill you with shots.
Azuvector
23-12-2007, 03:31
nothing wrong with adding a way to finish a downed gunner that looks good. At least then push spam and blue seizures won't be quite as annoying. Is it still making a come back with improvements in a later release or has it been scrapped altogether?
The nasty BP-draining bugs it had in B19.0 have been fixed, but it still has a problem: You can still stab someone in the foot who's standing in front of you, with it, which looks really strange, and is against the spirit of a move to get someone who's below you.
Once that's fixed(It's a low-priority thing.), Stabdown will be making a return...
WorldsLargestIpod
23-12-2007, 05:35
Why not add the Palpy 'Jump-Spin-Twirl' ?
Ive animated it. And its already going in. :p
Dirk Lightstar
23-12-2007, 16:13
Will it be actually useful?
DaveGrohl
23-12-2007, 16:56
Desann stab thing is probably one of the great moves i've used, its wicked.
Ive animated it. And its already going in. :p
was that in response to iPod's suggestion of a palpy twirl spin jump slash?
GoodOlBen
24-12-2007, 12:06
Desann stab thing is probably one of the great moves i've used, its wicked.
Aye! Nothing beats pwning you with it <3
DaveGrohl
24-12-2007, 12:15
I had lvl 2 defence!
GoodOlBen
24-12-2007, 15:39
Sure... Sure :D
Ive animated it. And its already going in. :p
Are you serious?! That is so freaking awesome. I don't care if it does 0 damage, it'll probably look so friggin cool :D
Are you serious?! That is so freaking awesome. I don't care if it does 0 damage, it'll probably look so friggin cool :D
0 damage.. Yes, And I will do a back hand stand, while saber throwing and kata'ing. For - Zero damage!
I had lvl 2 defence!
As judson would say, IF YOU'RE A MAN YOU DON'T NEED LEVEL THREE DEFENSE!
WorldsLargestIpod
25-12-2007, 03:14
Great, now i can add that to my unlimited power spam.
Wytchking
27-12-2007, 15:53
Are you serious?! That is so freaking awesome. I don't care if it does 0 damage, it'll probably look so friggin cool
Yes, I've merged it
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