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well on this thread i wanna talk about who u think is the worst video game maker EVER i think its EA they killed video games they shoulda stuck to sports but oh no the SIMs hell hath no fury like that godforsaken game i want it burned and everyones memory of it ever to be wiped it should have never exited
also ubisoft is terrible they come out with a new game like every 3 days but they all SUCK no they SUX0RZZ quality over quantity i always say and square enix has been doing pretty bad sad to say :( i loved it back when it was square soft but enix has failed to make any truly good games yet although i did like drakengard it was far to simple to play just swing wildly or ride ur dragon and breathe fire on everything but enough of me b*tching lets all complain together yay!!! :p
Wow... UBiSoft has quite a few good games under the belt. Splinter Cell and Pandora Tomorrow, and Chaos Theory is on the way. Rainbow Six 3 and Black Arrow also dominate. Both these franchises are high up on every list whether it be best game, best selling, or it was, I don't keep track, best online game, etc... so I think you're complaining for the sake of complaining. And the Sims was great while it lasted, although it got old a little too quickly, and the Sims2 is coming out very soon. I do think EA does sports games very well, and might not be as good with others, but to say both UBiSoft and EA are terrible is the stupidest thing I've ever heard anyone say.
lol, I don't know if this is allowed, or even counts but meh here's my vote:
http://www.breakthroughgaming.com/
I'm a Christian, but Christian games are morally wrong on so many levels...of gaming :p
Oh, and whoever made Force Commander.
DeathStarJanitor22
27-10-2004, 05:14
well on this thread i wanna talk about who u think is the worst video game maker EVER i think its EA they killed video games they shoulda stuck to sports but oh no the SIMs hell hath no fury like that godforsaken game i want it burned and everyones memory of it ever to be wiped it should have never exited
also ubisoft is terrible they come out with a new game like every 3 days but they all SUCK no they SUX0RZZ quality over quantity i always say and square enix has been doing pretty bad sad to say :( i loved it back when it was square soft but enix has failed to make any truly good games yet although i did like drakengard it was far to simple to play just swing wildly or ride ur dragon and breathe fire on everything but enough of me b*tching lets all complain together yay!!! :p
are you kidding? Splinter cell is but one of te best games ever. NO QUESTION! and the worst game developer ever is phillips, believe it or not they made a zelda game {which obviously sucked really hard}
|_maPex_|
27-10-2004, 07:19
Again DeathStar. You can have your opinion but no need to hate people or insult them for disagreeing.
=DavikKang=
27-10-2004, 07:44
EA isn't all bad. They made the latter Command and Conquer games and the Battle for Middle Earth looks very promising.
Return of the king was a cool game too.
Dingo Dave
27-10-2004, 08:29
but you do just have to hate that sqeaky voice that goes 'EA Games...challenge everything' or something like that. It has got the the point that when i hear that i wonder about the quality of the product
Chairwalker
27-10-2004, 09:14
EA isn't all bad. They made the latter Command and Conquer games
Generals wasnt C&C. It didnt have the atmosphere, story or design that the previous games had.
"Muhahah we are the evil GLA. I dont really know what it is we stand for but i can tell you that its quite evil. Yes sirree.
Oh no! all is lost! The superiour American forces of justice, armed with the might of bravery, justice and Liberty, are here!
We're meeeeellllltiiiiiiiiiing......"
What a load of crap that game was.
Nothing can beat the RA1 intro.
"Ja, was ist loos? Ich habe keine Zeit hier rund zu stehen."
-"Ich verstehe"
*BZKKKKTTTT*
=DavikKang=
27-10-2004, 09:51
They also made Renegade and Red Alert 2/Yuri's Revenge (great game).
BTW: Red Alert 1 into = The best
tenken i think you forget the sims has sold above 10 million worldwide...cant be all bad(i do hate the sims though)
EA have made some very good games in their time. I can't stand their sports titles, but they can throw some serious cash at projects which means almost all their games have extremely good production values.
Ubisoft are actually one of my favourite developers. Lately everything they touch turns to pure gold.
square enix has been doing pretty bad sad to
Forced to agree. I think enix has hurt squares ability to make decent games tbh. ffx2 is a prime example. You can see the enix influence throughout.. and as a result the game is not as good as it could have been.
just think EA's need for speeds...
it is the opposite of the topic tho but i think u must see the games of ParadoxPlaza (http://www.paradoxplaza.com)
they have historical games and they do A++ quality. but if u first look on it and u say: 0mG Suc|-| Sux0r gr4fics these games suck etc. then delete it quickly cuz these arent about effects :p
NHLs are getting suckier year by year...
Best was 2002, now the graphics are just the same, gameplay is worse than in 2004 and boring. AND THE MENUS!! AARRGHH!
And Muki, I will join. Where to sign in?
EA produced and distributed the C&Cs i think, Westwood made them. Then EA sent Westwood to hell. I hate EA. And also hate that voice in their games.
BTW weren't it for the graphics i think my favourite C&C would be the first. Even if just because you could see Kane splashing Seths brain all over the floor for disobeying or whatever. That and the invisble tanks of the Brotherhood of Nod.
More on Westwood... anybody else preffers Nox to Diablo? :P
DaveGrohl
27-10-2004, 18:08
lol drakengard kinda cool its has some crazy fighting in it
Bruce Campbell
27-10-2004, 21:05
I hate EA. And also hate that voice in their games.
You hate David Hayter. Better known as Solid Snake. He also wrote the screenplay for the X-Men movies.
You hate David Hayter. Better known as Solid Snake. He also wrote the screenplay for the X-Men movies.
Think he means the "EA games, challenge everything" voice :p and that's NOT David Hayter!
Aezeroth
27-10-2004, 21:54
Ah...I remember the old days of playing Red Alert...good memories.
Think he means the "EA games, challenge everything" voice :p and that's NOT David Hayter!Just the voice, not whoever did the vo for their logo.
i dont think u understand why it is i hate the sims im a big gamer when it comes to rpgs strategy and fps but the sims is just a terrible genre of game its the "dont live ur life play this instead cuz its beter" it singly handedly DESTROYED good gaming FOREVER ok maybe not forever theres still some companies i respect and that make great games agetec for one i love the armored core series like konami too mostly cuz they made DDR :D ill still play any of the old square soft games but if its got the word enix after it im iffy but i think the main factor in bad gaming might be companies aim at todays stoned up teenager not hardcore gamers anymore its just "how many hemped up high schoolers will buy this game?" i also like hal lab cuz they make kirby KIRBY FOREVER!!!! ah yes and lets not forget blizzard on my list of good game makers warcraft and starcraft are 2 of the best rts of all time not got to much into diablo bioware can make some games with good stories too although kotor had pretty bad gameplay that went way off d&d core rules it had a good plot and concept and nwn its fun to play all the time i dont even know why i just like to play it
=DavikKang=
28-10-2004, 00:50
Kirby forever!!!!
Speaking of Square Soft, anyone play Secret of Mana or Seiken Densetsu 3 (AKA Secret of Mana 2)?
Bruce Campbell
28-10-2004, 02:10
Enix was GOOD.
Then Square went "Uh-oh! We can't have other people making RPGs!" and bought them up and warped them with their facist ways.
Was Enix around to screw up Final Fantasy 8, 9, and 10? Or The Spirits Within? No, Square did that all on their own. Bleh.
That being said, I heart Chrono Trigger.
Anywho. Worst Video Game Makers?
Titus Software. Known infamously throughout the galaxy as the makers of Superman 64, known for their spectacular game series... uh... well. Whaddya know? They never made a major breakout hit game.
i dont think u understand why it is i hate the sims im a big gamer when it comes to rpgs strategy and fps but the sims is just a terrible genre of game its the "dont live ur life play this instead cuz its beter" it singly handedly DESTROYED good gaming FOREVER ok maybe not forever theres still some companies i respect and that make great games agetec for one i love the armored core series like konami too mostly cuz they made DDR :D ill still play any of the old square soft games but if its got the word enix after it im iffy but i think the main factor in bad gaming might be companies aim at todays stoned up teenager not hardcore gamers anymore its just "how many hemped up high schoolers will buy this game?" i also like hal lab cuz they make kirby KIRBY FOREVER!!!! ah yes and lets not forget blizzard on my list of good game makers warcraft and starcraft are 2 of the best rts of all time not got to much into diablo bioware can make some games with good stories too although kotor had pretty bad gameplay that went way off d&d core rules it had a good plot and concept and nwn its fun to play all the time i dont even know why i just like to play it
Then you're not playing it right. The REAL purpose for playing the sims is to do things you'd never do in real life. Go to parties, start fires, then build a brick wall in front of the only exit ;) Thats how you play the game
Again DeathStar. You can have your opinion but no need to hate people or insult them for disagreeing.
He never insulted Tenken, although Tenken deserves it. Not only is he probably the only one who thinks the way he does, but his post barely merits a topic and the way he says everything is annoying and obnoxious.
Then you're not playing it right. The REAL purpose for playing the sims is to do things you'd never do in real life. Go to parties, start fires, then build a brick wall in front of the only exit ;) Thats how you play the game
Aye, I call it Survivor, you start a fire in a maze like structure, have all the "contestants" run about the house without telling them what to do and save the last person. Then you take his picture and use the picture maker to make it a buyable peice of art to hang in the Survivor game building. It was quite fun. Playing the game normally is fun too, but, as I said, it gets old after a while and you never play it again. Tenken, you're really starting to bother me. You continue to post utter rejection at game developers that is mostly false. You can have your opinon, but you're going overboard and you hate without reason. You say UBiSoft is now about quantity, not quality. I would like to see where you get that from because UBiSoft's games, especially under the Tom Clancy logo, are some of the best around, and I don't see how that makes them some of the worst devs.
Also: I'm in highschool, and your comment about highschoolers, which infers they'll buy any crap, is about the stupedist thing you can say. I play a lot of games that people would consider good and not neanderthal leveled excitement based soley on shallow action and explosions and gore. Most of the reason some of my peers play these games you are referring to is because they don't game that often, and don't need anything too deep. They aren't mindlessly buyging anything for the hell of it, as you seem to infer, so shut your mouth unless you're going to speak intelligently.
looks like everyone just ignored the first statement i made about this thread i wanna hear ur opinions too u dont have to just flame me but go ahead cuz i dont care thats my opinion and im sticking with it
well how bout including reasons with your opinions. Unless you're just picking an opinion to talk about it or whatever reason you may have, you should be able to answer my questions, such as how UBiSoft is about quantity as opposed to quality now. If you have such a solid opinon, I'd like to hear why, I didn't flame. And your little comments about high schoolers is not an opinion or a fact, it's just some stupid stereo type you have stuck in your head. Come on, you said yourself you're sticking with your opinoin, so why don't you explain your opinon :rolleyes:
DeathStarJanitor22
28-10-2004, 03:37
the best is lureing like twenty people into your house with a party, and then blocking off all exits and only putting in a fridge. its quite a spectacle
CerberuS
28-10-2004, 03:39
He never insulted Tenken, although Tenken deserves it. Not only is he probably the only one who thinks the way he does, but his post barely merits a topic and the way he says everything is annoying and obnoxious.
He did - I edited the post.
Nobody deserves to be insulted at these forums. Also - instead of commenting on other users, I'd suppose you stick to the topic.
DeathStarJanitor22
28-10-2004, 03:42
hes right i insulted him, and for that. im sorry. but i INCREDIBLY disagree with his opinions
Nobody deserves to be insulted at these forums.
You don't say...
i think the main factor in bad gaming might be companies aim at todays stoned up teenager not hardcore gamers anymore its just "how many hemped up high schoolers will buy this game?"
So what's that crap? Anyway, I asked him, with as little insult as possible, to explain his reasoning to these strong opinons that he's "sticking with" but he doesn't seem to have anything and is telling me I'm just flaming him because I disagree when, clearly, I was just trying to figure out what the hell his problem was.
CerberuS
28-10-2004, 04:04
You don't say...
So what's that crap? Anyway, I asked him, with as little insult as possible, to explain his reasoning to these strong opinons that he's "sticking with" but he doesn't seem to have anything and is telling me I'm just flaming him because I disagree when, clearly, I was just trying to figure out what the hell his problem was.
Look, if you want to discuss the admin policies with me, do it via PM.
If you get from his comment that all high schoolers are hemped up, it's basically your own interpretation. If I'd say a game was made for "stupid people", would you then interprete this as me saying that all people are stupid? No, you don't need to answer this question.
I can already see that by your comments on his way of posting, this topic will probably degenerate into a personal discussion between you and him - getting more and more aggressive and hostile - and I'll have to close it in the end. Which the people who really like to talk about the topic will not like.
So - as I said, if you wish to discuss the admin policies with me, do it via PM. Back to topic.
ive given u numerous reasons pilo if u cant accept the fact that ppl might have diffrent views on things then u do thats just ignorant and u clearly have been just flaming me but i really dont care ive never liked ea or ubisoft and im not about to start because u said im crazy for hating them and i respect ur guys opinions i just said theyre terrible games i never said ur all morons for buying or playing them i just dont like em and frankly dont see how anyone can but clearly some ppl do so whatever
I never said you're a moron, I asked you how UBiSoft is bad, how they are more about quantity of games as opposed to quality. This will be the third time I've asked you the question, and probably the third time you will avoid it. I've already acknoledged your opinion, but I'm trying to see why you think the way you do and you refuse to answer. I'll PM, in the future, anything that won't contribute to the discussion if that's what you want, but I think his comment about stoned teenagers, most of whom don't even have enough motivation or willpower to get and/or play a game, is just as bad as anything I've said, so I don't see why all the heat is on me and DeathStar.
ok pilo ubisoft is more about quantity over quality cuz thats how they make thier games they come out with a new one like every couple of weeks ok i might be exagerating but sure seems that way where as most other companies get a new or at least a good new one every few months or more and have u looked at thier games bad graphics boring old redone story lines maybe not to the letter but story lines that have more or less been done many times before and bad gameplay once again this is my opinion the fact is that there are no facts reality is perception only in your mind is anything not tangible real
and yes most stoned up teenagers do have the will to go buy and play video games how do i know this cuz i go to school where about 90% plus of the ppl i know are smoking pot at least and all they do is skate smoke and play video games and so what if it is a stereotype just because it is doesnt mean it isnt true and once again reality is perception
CerberuS
28-10-2004, 04:17
I'll PM, in the future, anything that won't contribute to the discussion if that's what you want, but I think his comment about stoned teenagers, most of whom don't even have enough motivation or willpower to get and/or play a game, is just as bad as anything I've said, so I don't see why all the heat is on me and DeathStar.
This will be my last post in this thread.
The rules apply to all. The difference between Tenken's and your / DeathStar's post is that his remarks were of a general nature while yours were directly aimed at Tenken. Although I'd also advise Tenken to leave out that kind of comment in future as it's easy to see that is only a matter of time until someone comes who feels offended by it.
You guys are having this sort of argument over which game developer is worse?...Go kill my imposters for me...
Anyway, worst game developer of all time : Nintendo. Too greedy to hire a real developer, too lazy to come up with something besides Mario.
Nintendo was simply amazing early N64... but I agree that it's declining at a disturbing pace. It's like the old farmers of the US... as in it doesn't want change and it wants everything in its profession (video game design) to stay the same. They're not accepting new generation games, they're not releasing games for the more mature audience (there was an actual list of A(Adult) games early on for Nintendo). It's all about pokemon and little creatures and all these stupid, shallow emotions that no one really gives a flying rats ass about. Mario 64 was the last good Nintendo hit I can think of, which shouldn't suggest I don't think some of the new games kick ass (Super Smash Bros. Melee, Metroid Prime, F-Zero GX, Zelda... nevermind, and, of course some of their multiplatform, as in games released for all consoles, games).
yea shortly after n64s release nintendo just dove down most of thier games ended up being to similar and theyve changed the mario games to much I WANT GOOMBA STOMPAGE not these chessy wanna be battle systems like in paper mario 2 OMG DONT BUY THAT GAME TERRIBLE and super mario sunshine was just odd it wasnt terrible but it was like huh whats going on? and yes the pokemon they have to realize pokemon is dying its freakin worse then inuyasha or ranma 1/2 not to say theyre bad but they just refuse to end those series >< i liked pokemon back in the day but now theres like 30 bagillion pokemon
[KP] Tokakeke
28-10-2004, 04:47
Head Games.
Look up "Ultimate Paintball" (I think) on IGN. It got a 0.9. Team AI ran into walls, enemy AI had perfect headshots, practice mode had no enemies, you could "shoot" the sky, it's worse than it sounds, trust me.
=DavikKang=
28-10-2004, 04:53
Tenken, grammer isn't that important in this enviroment, but it would be a lot easier to read your posts if it had just a little and maybe a couple of periods. I would like to read your posts, but i tend to just skip over them.
I haven't really played any Nintendo since n64, never even touch a Gamecube yet. Even so, n64 was cool back in its time, but the games never really came around (Except for a few, including SUPER SMASH BROTHERS!!!!!)
yea i know im terrible with punctuation so it looks like one big runon sentance which it is sorry bout that
ok pilo ubisoft is more about quantity over quality cuz thats how they make thier games they come out with a new one like every couple of weeks
I assume you're talking about things like Black Arrow, and Splinter Cell...
First of all, they're great games, according to almost everyone that plays them and many reviews, so it's more like quality + quantity.... sounds like a GREAT developer to me. Also, the reason there are so many is becuase they have tons of dev teams. You wanna know how Pandora Tomorrow was done so quickly and Chaos Theory is being done very soon is because they have different developement teams working on them. UBiSoft is so damn huge, that they can make a lot of great games at the same time. Other games, like Rainbow Six 3 Black Arrow, are done quickly because they already have games on other platforms (that Athena Expansion) and the games like Black Arrow are simply modified ports. The developers working on Splinter Cell are different from the ones working on Ghost Recon, probably in different countries even. You should really look into things more when you form opinons. Someone accused Hatrus of stealing his vehicles on the PCGAMEMODs forums because they came out so quick (maybe 5 new vehicle models a day at one point). The reason is because he works on many many vehicles at the same time (like UBiSoft) and he does 3dmodelling as an occupation.
DeathStarJanitor22
29-10-2004, 04:28
I Concur, ... {sorry had to say it}
all i gona say is THQ SUCKS!!!
I started reading this thread and started wondering about some of my favorite companies from the late-90's. Then I decided to go to the Interplay site to find that it no longer exists. And I researched a bit more and found that Interplay had gone out of business.
While I admit Interplay wasn't doing very well in the last 3-4 years, it's unfortunate. Interplay had developed some pretty good games, but alas, it's time had come.
I also feel that Lucas Arts is also declining to some degree. Most of their recent games just haven't been up to par with some of the classics like the X-wing series, Jedi Knight, Rogue Squadron, and even Episode 1: The Phantom Menace (barely makes it on my list). I think the first game that really started this decline was Galactic Battlegrounds. Battlefront was ok, but the gameplay wasn't all that fun, and the campaign was just too similar to instant action/multiplayer.
Suprisingly enough, I prefer mb2 over Battlefront. Not sure why that is, but I just do.
=DavikKang=
29-10-2004, 08:39
Suprisingly enough, I prefer mb2 over Battlefront. Not sure why that is, but I just do.
Surprisingly?!??!
|_maPex_|
29-10-2004, 08:56
I started reading this thread and started wondering about some of my favorite companies from the late-90's. Then I decided to go to the Interplay site to find that it no longer exists. And I researched a bit more and found that Interplay had gone out of business.
While I admit Interplay wasn't doing very well in the last 3-4 years, it's unfortunate. Interplay had developed some pretty good games, but alas, it's time had come.
I also feel that Lucas Arts is also declining to some degree. Most of their recent games just haven't been up to par with some of the classics like the X-wing series, Jedi Knight, Rogue Squadron, and even Episode 1: The Phantom Menace (barely makes it on my list). I think the first game that really started this decline was Galactic Battlegrounds. Battlefront was ok, but the gameplay wasn't all that fun, and the campaign was just too similar to instant action/multiplayer.
Suprisingly enough, I prefer mb2 over Battlefront. Not sure why that is, but I just do.
You are crazy as hell if you don't even mention KOTOR and the upcoming Feb 2005 KOTOR2.
UbiSoft pwns btw (I think it's only a publisher, not a developer however). THQ isn't a developer - they are publishers. Blizzard pwns period. id Software is unmatched. BioWare will always be up there. Konami too. Maxis was always good but now all their stuff is just copies of everything from before with some new perks. EA I think only publishes games.
I didn't mention Kotor because I haven't played it. And because I have a thing against the plot.
You should really look into things more when you form opinons.
well thats just the thing its my opinion theres no all knowledgable force that says a game is good and it is so i dont like em so lets just leave it at that
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I also feel that Lucas Arts is also declining to some degree. Most of their recent games just haven't been up to par with some of the classics like the X-wing series, Jedi Knight, Rogue Squadron, and even Episode 1: The Phantom Menace (barely makes it on my list). I think the first game that really started this decline was Galactic Battlegrounds. Battlefront was ok, but the gameplay wasn't all that fun, and the campaign was just too similar to instant action/multiplayer.
Suprisingly enough, I prefer mb2 over Battlefront. Not sure why that is, but I just do.
man i LOVED galactic battlegrounds i used to play it all the time although admitadly it was basically just a ripoff of age of empires 2 :p
My First Ever Video Game Was....... DUN DUN DUN!
Get Ready For It......
BEAST WARS: TRANSFORMERS!
Developed By Hasbo or somin, who made the toys, that was ages ago and I have to say it sucked arse so hard.
Impossible for people of the ages it was designed for, but it did have multiplayer!
Too Bad i never got a chance to even see multiplayer cus i transformed it into a discus!
Tehy must have gone backrupt after that 1 releash!
transformers was cool way back when before they added all the junk the original like 3 seasons or so
[KP] Tokakeke
29-10-2004, 21:52
While we're talking about ripoffs, tenken:
Battlefront is a ripoff of Battlefield 1942
Jedi Academy is a ripoff of Quake 3,
Counterstrike is a ripoff of HalfLife,
:/
i hadnt ever played literally half those games so i didnt even know heh but wow thats a lot of ripoff games ud think with todays technology they could develop new battle systems and stuff but i guess its cheaper/easier just to copy something thats done well in the past sigh
[KP] Tokakeke
29-10-2004, 22:12
Engines are expensive to produce. Therefore, the game industry makes a couple and makes "mods" of..say..Quake 3.
JA is a mod of Quake 3, technically.
i dont think u understand why it is i hate the sims im a big gamer when it comes to rpgs strategy and fps but the sims is just a terrible genre of game its the "dont live ur life play this instead cuz its beter"
I must agree...
EA Should warn u that the sims is simply a way of
"Running Someone Else's Life, While Your's Fall Apart."
I think the worst companies are those who make transformations of movies/books/television/etc to computer games. Innovative ideas all the way.
Sure, some of those games are enjoyable, but I always wonder why they bother... and I hope a pay cheque is not the answer. ;)
I think the worst companies are those who make transformations of movies/books/television/etc to computer games.
Even Worse Are The People Who Turn Games Into Movies, Like Tomb Raider and Resident Evil, What Crap!
oh man dont get me started on movie to video game converts ugh those are almost always so TERRIBLE and dont sell any copies after thier first few weeks with the exeption of a few x-men games seems that ppl take care when converting x-men to anything cuz lots of ppl like it
Bruce Campbell
08-12-2004, 04:49
Think he means the "EA games, challenge everything" voice :p and that's NOT David Hayter!
It use to be. I forgot they changed it.
Þahricida
08-12-2004, 05:11
... Black Isle and Interplay
They made KICKASS Games like Incubation and my all time favorites:
Fallout 1 & 2
But they ****ing screw around with their customers like no other company (except Valve maybe :>)
They announced Fallout 3 and declared it dead ... then they continued work on it, showed some REALLY promising screenshots and I began to hope again.............. and then they declare it dead again.
I want that frickin' game !
Jedistrike
08-12-2004, 05:12
damn u guys .. there all gay all games where develpoped so mods like mb could be aded
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